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Holocauxt · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 348

I seriously hope that "Matrix rain" is not what Tat thinks what we think of Fush.

I want her to be fully redeemed and genuinely good. I don't know where those subconscious thoughts come from.
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Miss Magenta · Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 1444 Location: Ohio

I think it's supposed to represent what society within Sinfest's canon thinks of Fuchsia and/or devil girls in general. Not specifically what we think of Fyoosh, but... just what people in the comic's setting think of her.
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sammich · Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 28

Is it weird that I'm finding the Patriarchy's messages uplifting in this strip?

Miss Magenta · Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 1444 Location: Ohio

A tad bit. I don't know man. What's uplifting about being called an animal, a creature, selfish, greedy, venal, and that's all you're ever going to be?

(It's obviously quite saddening, since Fyoosh quite obviously wants to be more than any of that.)
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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9281 Location: Bellingham, WA

Yeeeeah... "You're just animals; biological urges; appetites; selfish; greedy; venal creatures; that's all you are; nothing more"... not my image of "uplifting."
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redshirt26 · Joined: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 69

Well no wonder she's depressed. She's been living in the forest ever since she left Big D's place nine months ago. Do they follow apartheid where they live?!

Give Fyoosh a place to live. Reformed Ex-Succubi Have Rights Too!

Holocauxt · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 348

I thought she was staying at Granny Cake's shop or somethin'...
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ktern · Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 894

next she's gonna be obsessed with ducks gawd

joandark · Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 225 Location: New Austria

Hm. That's odd. The idea that all people are bound by their selfish desires and are inherently evil seems not to have much to do with the feminist philosophy or theme. Seems the patriarchy has been replaced with the "pessimarchy." Maybe we'll start seeing "archy"s for everything now. We'll visit the "fundiearchy" with Seymore later.

About where she's staying: I'm sure Crim would let her stay at his place if she had nowhere else to stay. I'd doubt that she was homeless right now.
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sammich · Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 28

Well, for one, it doesn't say "and that's all you're ever going to be."

If you're just an animal, like all other animals, that means you're not special. There are no special rules, exceptions, duties, or benefits for you. Being an animal gives lot more freedom than most theologies and philosophies have ever given humanity.

The mid section appeals to me in a Daoist illusion dispelling way. You have appetites and biological urges. How can you ever rule your body if you do not understand it and why it does what it does? Can you reconcile a desire to not follow those urges and appetites if you pretend that they are a part of your consciousness, if you pretend that you are to blame for them?

Yes, we are selfish, greedy, and venal. And some of the most evil people in history refused to accept the possibility that they could be bad people who do bad things because they're inherently bad people. Lots of people agree with that statement, but how many people are willing to admit that's true not just of brutal dictators but ourselves and our loved ones? When you know that you are predispositioned to bad behavior but simultaneously predispositioned believe you are always doing good things, you reach a meta-awareness that allows you actually do good things, if you so choose of course.

That's all you are (present tense). Nothing more. Now that you know that, what will you become?

Edit: Of course, I know the Patriarchy couldn't possibly intend that subtext and I expect Tat intended for us to take it as other posters have.

Miss Magenta · Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 1444 Location: Ohio

ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5249 Location: California

well yes sammich that makes loads of sense and if you ignore the first three panels of this strip and basically every other time those Matrix-y lines appear in Sinfest it might even work!

maybe

okay not really

Delakando · Joined: 14 May 2012 Posts: 65

anyone else think this means that nique will recruit her? better yet will this also mean she turns her back on her friend?

Adyon · Joined: 27 May 2012 Posts: 952 Location: Behind my Cintiq

Holocauxt · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 348

Funny, I had Big D pegged as "Mister Patriarchy" himself. Maybe I'm not far from the truth.
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