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ktern · Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 901

agreed

i know a few girls who eat tons and are bony as hell regardless. it'd be a bit of a slap to the face for the media to be all like "hey, now this more full-bodied chick is way sexier than you" (they're also quite short, so they're not the stereotypical anorexic model type--double slap). we've all got a body type and whatever that is, it should be okay

EmptyOnion · Joined: 13 Aug 2012 Posts: 56

The q thing? Like "QQ" over and over and over again? or Queue.. yes I suppose that would work just as well too?

I contend they do have to just appear, or changes have to just appear, as the old saying goes; "only nothing comes from nowhere," and the image being perpetuated had to start somewhere, and with some reason.
The kids also have to want to cling on to those images and internalize them, over other images. I mean, we are confronted with a million different body images from people who are treated with great respect.. the Twiggy's the world over to the Roseanne's. God knows even today I can't turn on the TV and flip more than 10 channels without seeing one twig and one obese woman. So saying "oh.. well.. that was just socialized! that's the reason that specific image is so popular!... is kind of a cop out. The image has to come from somewhere, and then they have to make a choice as to which one is attractive, and then there is a reason.. usually a deep seeded societal and genetic reason, that one of those is more attractive than the other.

Though..
That's also interesting that size zero has been banned from catwalks. Maybe that is another direction to take it.. though a bit offensive in some regards. Like size 0 women can never ever ever be models there.. lol.

Oh, and a Size 12 woman, definitely a + Size girl. Which is fine, lots of guys like + Women.
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ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5383 Location: California

it's not a cop-out if it's reality.

especially since your very admission that you can't flip on the TV and not see these images of ultra-thin women touted as beautiful is in fact further evidence for the claim that these images come to us and get ingrained in us through socialization. they are everywhere. we are bombarded by them beginning with our earliest years. it's a very far-reaching explanation and you haven't really done anything here to challenge it.

it is not really about "wanting to cling to certain images," anymore than children choose to learn a particular language or choose to learn gender roles. it isn't about choice at all. that's why it's also called "indoctrination."

so you're just not understanding what "socialization" means.

fritterdonut · Joined: 24 Jul 2012 Posts: 673 Location: Hedonism

My way of making poutine:

1. Make french fries first. Homemade or oven baked doesn't really matter, oven baked tends to be easier and generally safer (grease fires aren't fun).

2. Make up some beef-based gravy. I like using the drippings from roasts or you can use beef bullion. Bisto makes a nice, decently thick/rich gravy.

3. Put fries in oven safe bowl, top with some salt+pepper (A bit of garlic powder can be delicious!), throw in your preferred cheese blend, mozzarella is great but mixed mozza/cheddar blends can be really nice too. Top off with gravy.

4. Throw it in oven @350 degrees Fahrenheit for ~5 minutes.

5. Remove from oven and enjoy delicious potato, gravy and melty cheese goodness. Watch out though, because it can end up being about a billion and a half degrees in the center and burning yourself is no fun.

Also, more on topic:

I wonder if people would be so engrossed with women being "ultra thin" if they saw how much some such people suffer to get there. Having known some people with eating disorders and people with metabolism issues... it's not pretty. Anorexia, Bulimia... not good.

E: By posting the recipe for delicious poutine, I feel I have done my part in the fight against the ultra-skinny image. Laughing

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ChastMastr · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject:

... I still don't know what the QQQQQ thing means. Did I miss something?

Saved poutine recipe to desktop!! Smile

mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15622 Location: under the bed

mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15622 Location: under the bed

ChastMastr · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject:

Ah. I received a PM explaining that it is meant to suggest tears and crying. Mystery solved.

mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15622 Location: under the bed

no, that would be Crying or Very sad

or ;;
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ChastMastr · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: