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Delakando · Joined: 14 May 2012 Posts: 65

When someone speaks their dislike of feminism they are criticized... yet when feminism criticizes dislike of older and outdated social views its praised.

In my opinion some feminism's out-spoken opinions are male-bashing hate speeches. Yet that opinion is criticized. If your not with them your ignorant or sexist? I find that a terribly biased view.

ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5383 Location: California

yeah, y'know, how dare feminists criticize older outdated social views, that's so unfair

Delakando · Joined: 14 May 2012 Posts: 65

ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5383 Location: California

that's right! there are no problems here! everything is 100% a-okay! what, wage gap, sexualization in the media, rape statistics, not being taken seriously, those are silly and false. there are no homosexuals in Iran--i mean, uh, misogynists in, uh, this place. honest. the Iraqi Minister of Information told me so.

also lol at the idea that there are no feminists in the Middle East.

mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15622 Location: under the bed

i'm interested in this attitude of 'if you aren't focusing all your attention on the worst case, you shouldn't do anything at all'.

so i guess here at the cancer center where i work, we should stop all research on breast cancer and prostate cancer and lung cancer and all those others, and focus on brain cancer, because that's invariably fatal. after we fix that, we can get back to those piddling little possibly survivable cancers.
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Samsally · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 5439

Oh, you're one of those. You must be from the US, where it's somehow okay to barge into completely different cultures and start bossing them around like you somehow magically know better. FYI: Most of those cultures don't even appreciate it. Even the people you claim you're helping.

Dismissing existing problems here because other problems exist elsewhere is pretty ridiculous. That's like saying someone who's had their finger cut off should stop whining because that dude over there had his leg cut off.
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Adyon · Joined: 27 May 2012 Posts: 1028 Location: Behind my Cintiq

ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5383 Location: California

not only that but those piddly little possibly survivable cancers like breast cancer and prostate cancer actually aren't even problems at all because i mean hey they aren't invariably fatal so obviously they don't need our attention because you might possibly not die from them!

wait, what's that, you can die of untreated breast or prostate cancer? poppycock! poppycock and balderdash

mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15622 Location: under the bed

yeah. and it's not like you can learn anything in dealing with smaller problems that can possibly help you solve bigger ones. because small problems and big problems are _totally_ different.
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Delakando · Joined: 14 May 2012 Posts: 65

Samsally · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 5439

Oh good, you haven't even tried to address the fact that you'd rather push your own beliefs onto another culture rather than even entertain the notion that fixing local problems isn't nearly as simple as you have decided it must be.
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ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5383 Location: California

that's right! everything is actually the women's fault! women decided what's beautiful and sexist values drilled into people practically since birth have absolutely nothing to do with it! there's a group that maybe only does stunts that have nothing to do with what they're talking about or maybe not but who cares because boobs! feminists in the Middle East don't count because they're too quiet and that has nothing to do with oppressive patriarchal societies that prevent them from speaking up! women rape too so therefore women being raped is...apparently...not a problem?

see women, if you would just do everything that men tell you to do you wouldn't have the problem of living in a society where you have to live the way men tell you to live! it all makes sense!

incidentally, Delakando, you are not being criticized because you "dislike feminists," you're being criticized for being an ignorant dumbshit with no idea what the fuck you're talking about

Delakando · Joined: 14 May 2012 Posts: 65

ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5383 Location: California

that's right! one crazy person who says they're against racism or a feminist or whatever automatically stands for the entire group and you are therefore obligated to explain how you aren't crazy like they are and therefore we will not talk about what it is you're advocating! then nobody talks about misogyny or racism, and thus misogyny and racism are preserved! hooray for great victory for white male ruling class!

of course it would help if you'd find us some of those "seek not only equalization but subjetification of males to pay back all of the years men have subjectified them" but, really, who the fuck cares? should i paint all men as ignorant fuckwits just because you're an ignorant fuckwit? do all men have to explain why they're not like you just because you're painting them badly with your mealy-mouthed helpless presence? i hope not! i'm certainly not responsible for your bullshit.

mostly because you're not actually painting all men badly with your mealy-mouthed helpless presence, you're just painting yourself badly--as it should be.

which brings us back to the original point: why the hell should the fact that there are bigger problems elsewhere preclude us from solving the problems we've still got here?