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[Rothide]

Sigh, I forget that believing in an all powerful creator that holds us to a standard is usually looked down upon as superstitious drudge.

I want to at least say that I believe in science, evolution (as adaption to better live in a new area though, not origin of the species) and other aspects that people usually cite as why they do not believe God exists. I look at those examples and believe my God created everything, so he specifically created science and all the other things in his design. That may seem like a cop out but it is my belief.

[Heretical Rants]

please don't bring up any of that crap, Rothide.

I'm not in the mood.

[Rothide]

Crap over, just stating my belief. If someone doesn't know where a person is coming from, they cant really understand the person at all.

[Heretical Rants]

Yes, yes, that's true, and also reasonable people who try to hold on to such beliefs generally try to incorporate scientific findings into them, like you have, I am well aware. That much doesn't bother me.

I'm not even going to tell you what specific part of what you said made me want to fling proverbial poo at you, though, because I don't want to get into an argument about it.
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[Dogen]

There are a lot of theories. Better nutrition, focus on academics making us better test takers, etc. It might even be little bits from all of those things working together!
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[mouse]

[Oneponytoruleall]

Goats are browsers (eat a bit here and there and move on like deer) not grazers. They nibble on just about everything. They have just as much of a reputation for being garbage eaters as hogs. But they can survive where other hooved animals can't find enough to eat.

Hogs eat a lot of roots and plants, but the unclean thing probably comes from the fact they'll eat anything they can dig up including human corpses. Like dogs. The dog is regarded as an unclean beast and a scavenger in the the bible.

Of course, fish are also known for eating on corpses and they're still a preferred biblical food.

And Jesus said, "I'll cure you of leprosy and blindness, but you're on your own with those internal parasites. Those things are gross. I can't handle that shit."

[mouse]

well, really more bottom feeders, like crustaceans, eat on corpses and stuff. the ones the fishermen went for were probably feeding in the water column.
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[TheJabawack]

When I attended catechesis one of the first thing that got explained was that the Bible is not like the Koran wich was dictated by Allah to Mohamed.

The Bible was written by people influenced by God to write in their own words what God intended. It was a product of the times in wich it was written.

The fact that pigs were unclean was probably just a way to stop the community from getting sick after eating pork.

Otherwise the reason why other animals weren't considered unclean doesn't make sense to me either.
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How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space;
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth

[LadySunami]

Actually it had nothing to do with any of those things. At least not really. The Jewish people just had a very strict view of how the word ought to be.

They believed that in the beginning God made order out of Chaos, but Chaos continues to "leak" into God's creation, causing deviations from his ordered or "proper" creation. Things that are "unclean" are manifestations of Chaos, and as such should be avoided. That's why Leviticus lists what traits/behavior are "proper" for various creatures to have, and only prohibits eating and touching those creatures that don't have those traits.

So proper land animals are the ones that have split hooves and chew cud. Any animals that do not, should be avoided. Similarly proper sea creatures have fins and scales, and winged insects ought to hop on the ground, not walk on all fours.

Of course I should add that I learned all this in an upper division theology class about two years ago, so my memory might be a little off. Still, my Professor, Charles A. Bobertz, was brilliant. He really knows his stuff.
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[Heretical Rants]

All I know about it is what Leviticus says.

[mouse]

[TheJabawack]

I wonder how it got decided wich traits were "unclean", were they listed by God himself or was it a decision made referring to/expanding on previous precepts?

As for insects, should it be walk on all sixs? Or maybe walk on all as many as they want? (go millipedes!)
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So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure;
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space;
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth

[Heretical Rants]