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Gibson22 · Joined: 01 Jul 2012 Posts: 197

I suppose it was more annoyance. It's going to happen and I have seen you do it before, but it got me this time. It wasn't just the things about our ancestors; it was generally mocking scripture. I should be used to it by now and to some degree I am, but I have been seeing more and more of it lately and it got to me.

Not to mention that maybe the political tension is growing and maybe that is why people seem to be more snarky than usual at the moment...

My point was to basically say that our generation is not as intelligent as we give ourselves credit for. All in all, I took issue with your tone concerning religious beliefs, and for the mass majority of people on this site.

Heretical Rants · Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 3036

I'm not going to change that, sorry. Don't read my posts on the subject if it bothers you.
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Gibson22 · Joined: 01 Jul 2012 Posts: 197

Yeah, I know. Sorry. It was silly to even go there. I'll let it go.

Heretical Rants · Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 3036

No, no, you've got every right to complain about it.
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Gibson22 · Joined: 01 Jul 2012 Posts: 197

Well, I don't mean to turn this into a "pat-each-other-on-the-back-and-sing-Kumbayah" deal, but you are all right by me, Heretical Rants! Very Happy

Besides, I can't stay too upset for long at a fellow MLP fan.

Heretical Rants · Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 3036

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Yinello · Joined: 10 May 2012 Posts: 1199 Location: Behind you

*looks at rational good ending of discussion*

Guys, you're giving Sinfest Comic Forums a bad name.
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Darqcyde · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject:

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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9278 Location: Bellingham, WA

You guys missed the part where we talked about how IQs are increasing over time, both in things like vocabulary (which is related to better education) and things like logical reasoning, pattern recognition, and novel problem solving (fluid intelligence; not directly related to better education). They have to recalibrate IQ tests continuously or people would start falling off the top of the charts. Conversely, your great great grandparents who got through life just fine might be mentally retarded on a current test.

Theories were floated (better nutrition, access to vast amounts of information, we take so many tests that we're just better test takers now, etc), but no one knows why. We just know that people all over the world are scoring higher on IQ tests all the time.
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15441 Location: under the bed

however, we don't know how people who lived thousands of years ago or in different places (like the ones who built incan cities or raised the easter island statues or figured out open-ocean navigation) would have scored in iq tests. so it is possible that intelligence over time is a u-shaped curve, with intelligence dropping during, say, the industrial revolution, as diets got more restrictive and air and water got nasty. it now looks like an upward curve because our data starts at or near the bottom of the curve, we have absolutely no data to extrapolate far back in time.
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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9278 Location: Bellingham, WA

Excellent point, and one we obviously have no means of testing in either direction, so we're at a logical draw. Who knows how smart people were thousands of years ago? No one, that's who!

I like the idea that people were smart, got dumb, and are getting smarter again. Maybe that means we'll find Atlantis and the aliens will come back to visit us and protect us from the reptilians who are running the NWO and pushing Agenda 21 to take away our guns!

Because Jesus do we need some more smarts.
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15441 Location: under the bed

it would be nice to think the aliens would come to save us.

yeah, i was going to say, if you project the current trend backwards, you probably end up with the people around during the pharoahs being drooling idiots, and then you have to explain everything the archeologists have dug up in egypt as being the product of aliens.
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fritterdonut · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject:

Also, of course, there are always people who would buck the trend;

Einstein, Bohr, Galileo, Copernicus, Tesla, Darwin, Gauss, Volta...

All people who could probably beat most people in an IQ test today.

Honestly, who do we have nowadays who is as well known as them? Stephen Hawking is the only one that comes to mind.
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Darqcyde · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:14 am Post subject:

I'm pretty sure in places like ancient Greece, Persia, China, India, etc. there were always a few smart cookies. We also have to take into account other factors like plagues and conscription. Also the things more primitive cultures would have had knowledge of is vastly different than what we need to know.

A dirt farm owner, while a dying breed, is the closest equivalent to this type of knowledge and skill set that we have today. Animal husbandry, caring of crops, fixing machinery, building their own house, hunting, fishing, and more-- a successful dirt farmer is usually quite knowledgeable. But then again, even in primitive times not everyone was this knowledgeable or capable.
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