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Kenshiro



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile, somewhere in Back-On-Topic Land. Sortof.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We decided this topic was shit and decided to start over. The new topic is Simon Amstell, whoever that is.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everyone who majors in the sciences should be forced to take classes in epistemology, so they'd realize all of science (and philosophy, and religion, and everything else in your head) is based on the fundamental acceptance of postulates for which we have no evidence. Maybe then some of them would stop being dicks about it.


But probably not.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all axioms are created equal.

Also, different groups put different amounts of trust in different axioms, to different degrees of reasonableness.

The fact that if there is any objective truth none of us know what it is doesn't give free licence to just make shit up and then believe in it absolutely.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and I'd be dramatically more affable to judgments made on the reasonableness of one's axioms rather than the knee-jerk, "Religion is a belief in a magical man in the sky! Haw haw!" Well, science depends on the unprovable postulate that your observations are true representations of an external world. Haw haw.

Which isn't to say that all systems of knowledge are equal. Just that I'd like to see a little more effort by those who think their beliefs are founded in concrete evidence (which defines people on both sides).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE: haw haw


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
The new topic is Simon Amstell, whoever that is.


Simon Amstell is a brilliant stand-up comedian. His name indicates he probably has Dutch ancestry. Also he's Jewish, which, again, Dutch, right?

On the subject of Courtney Love:

Noel Fielding - "She would crush you like a Twiglet."
Simon Amstell - "She would. Or kill me and make it look like suicide."

On the subject of 50 Cent:

"Hello, 50 Cent here. People say my music is gratuitously violent and misogynistic - but what they don't realise is that I'm just talking about where I'm from. And where I'm from, everybody's a vile millionaire rapper and all woman are rubbish sluts."

And I haven't even got started on his show 'Do Nothing', or his sitcom, 'Grandmas' House'. The man is primetime tv comedy gold.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even Hagrid's a fan

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon Amstell was a better host of Never Mind the Buzzcocks than Mark Lamarr.

Let the thread war begin!
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fritterdonut



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Simon Amstell was a better host of Never Mind the Buzzcocks than Mark Lamarr.


I'm inclined to agree with that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fritterdonut wrote:
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Simon Amstell was a better host of Never Mind the Buzzcocks than Mark Lamarr.


I'm inclined to agree with that.


Well fuck you Josh Groban was better than both!
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fritterdonut



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kame wrote:
fritterdonut wrote:
Quote:
Simon Amstell was a better host of Never Mind the Buzzcocks than Mark Lamarr.


I'm inclined to agree with that.


Well fuck you Josh Groban was better than both!


Well fuck.

Them's fightin' words.
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Mikewee777



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prayer was never banned from public schools. Nor was Christmas.

In fact, courts have repeatedly upheld the right of student prayer.
It just can't be forced, led or required by the school.
We trust our teachers to provide a test environment for education,
not a place of indoctrination and brainwashing.

Religion is a freedom, let's keep it that way.
______________________________________
Silly things God says:
Humans evolved? Don't be silly. Spirit orbs
come from God who lives on the planet Kolob.
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Money changers steal cash, why didn't you
give them my 1,000 in invested cash?
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I kill everyone who works on the Sabbath; Hearts work.
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Universe built from nothing, ran out of
nothing and recycled stuff.
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Science or math proved me wrong? It is now
"always a metaphor".
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A gap in science or math? Clearly I am the
cause and solution to it.
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Fore-skin, Knotted butt-hair,appendics,
tonsils=Intelligent design.
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I create a tsunami and show off a common
rainbow to justify it.
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I committed political suicide by cross to
save you from myself.
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I create rules for goat herders in desert,
it applies to everyone.
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I promise a worthless wasteland, people who
I didn't promise it to can fight over it.
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Humans are too nice, let's scramble the
language so they have a reason to hate.
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I have something to say, I'll tell the
least credible sexist in town.
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I stopped doing miracles once analysed
records happen.
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I love humans so much, I created a hell
just for them.
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Planet is built for humans but it has 70%
salt water.
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She's your daughter or sister? Have sex
with her.
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Evolution is not real unless they prove I
did it.
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I gave you free will but never use it ever.
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Abortions are bad but miscarriages are ok.
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Religion of peace kills non-believers.
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Children starve to death? I'm happy.
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Bears should eat laughing children.
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Children ate? I have a grudge now.
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Won a war? Burn your daughter.
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You raped her? You bought her.
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Salt destroys crops. Be salty.
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I said I hate figs, duh.
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fritterdonut



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool story bro, but I'm not seeing any Simon Amstell in there so....

TL;DR

Quote:
Salt destroys crops. Be salty.


lolwut

Quote:
Bears should eat laughing children.


Double lolwut.
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Him



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just laughing in general, but if they're laughing at a man with a bald spot. Then, RELEASE THE BEARS! God's very sensitive about that. The simple lesson is this, children who bully adults will face the wrath of God. In the form of killer bears.

Here's a part of the bible I kind of like, but the christian right rarely quotes it.
Oh and it's even from their favorite book, Leviticus.
Leviticus 25:35-38
The Lord said:
35 If any of your people become poor and unable to support themselves, you must help them, just as you are supposed to help foreigners who live among you. 36-37 Donít take advantage of them by charging any kind of interest or selling them food for profit. Instead, honor me by letting them stay where they now live. 38 RememberóI am the Lord your God! I rescued you from Egypt and gave you the land of Canaan, so that I would be your God.


Of course the next part specifies when and how it is permissible to take slaves (although they must always be released within 7 years depending on where in the cycle you acquire them). So it's a bit hit and miss, that bible.


Oh and I almost forgot. I love Simon Amstell.
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