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Succubus1982

Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Posts: 851 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| People are reading this completely wrong. It's not saying it's bad to play with dolls, or get married or wear makeup. It's just saying it's bad to force those ideals on people. They should get a choice. I never played with dolls as a child and still concider myself a functional woman, I'm not married either and I seldom ever wear makeup. And I'm happy. Feminists and Glossy are promoting freedom of choice, not the doctrine of society that says you are a bad person if you DON'T do this that and the other. It's not the dolls and marriage themselves that are bad you see. It's the fact that theres no option B. It's 'Girls are supposed to do this, they're supposed to wear pink and be ultra girly and laugh at all the guys jokes'. Which IS bullshit. |
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starkruzr
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 62
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Succubus1982 wrote: | | People are reading this completely wrong. It's not saying it's bad to play with dolls, or get married or wear makeup. It's just saying it's bad to force those ideals on people. They should get a choice. I never played with dolls as a child and still concider myself a functional woman, I'm not married either and I seldom ever wear makeup. And I'm happy. Feminists and Glossy are promoting freedom of choice, not the doctrine of society that says you are a bad person if you DON'T do this that and the other. It's not the dolls and marriage themselves that are bad you see. It's the fact that theres no option B. It's 'Girls are supposed to do this, they're supposed to wear pink and be ultra girly and laugh at all the guys jokes'. Which IS bullshit. |
You have an evidently endless supply of patience. |
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Zhuinden
Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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-"Women should NOT wear makeup and spend time getting ready!" That's fine. But remember that we men won't shave ourselves or use deodorant anymore.
-"Women should NOT get married!" What's this, some kind of hippie commune propaganda?
-"Women should NOT become sluts!" First of all, there are people who enjoy being sluts, men and women (although is waaaaay more difficult for men to do it), second, how-the-heck is this the next step after being married? |
Sigh. Explain how maintaining personal hygiene, and shaving (thus making you not stab people in the face with your stubble) the same thing as painting all over your face, why there is a social pressure to find a girlfriend / boyfriend and to be married, and why it is socially acceptable to degrade a woman's persona into a sex toy...
Not to mention, there were some pretty good replies here.
The problem is that the closed-minded people are unwilling to comprehend these comics, and only those appreciate it who understand what it is trying to say. |
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Miss Magenta

Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 1168 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Succubus1982 wrote: | | People are reading this completely wrong. It's not saying it's bad to play with dolls, or get married or wear makeup. It's just saying it's bad to force those ideals on people. They should get a choice. I never played with dolls as a child and still concider myself a functional woman, I'm not married either and I seldom ever wear makeup. And I'm happy. Feminists and Glossy are promoting freedom of choice, not the doctrine of society that says you are a bad person if you DON'T do this that and the other. It's not the dolls and marriage themselves that are bad you see. It's the fact that theres no option B. It's 'Girls are supposed to do this, they're supposed to wear pink and be ultra girly and laugh at all the guys jokes'. Which IS bullshit. |
I COULD KISS YOU RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST SOMEONE FUCKING GETS IT.
In other, slightly unrelated news, glad to see that I was right about why the sisterhood chooses to wear sunglasses, and right about Minnie having purple hair. :J yeehaw. _________________
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Samsally

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 4708
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I get the message.
I appreciate the message.
Not really willing to fight about it with the hateful today, though. _________________ "Samsally is rude and calls people fuckwits." ~ Dogen |
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redshirt26
Joined: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 31
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Miss Magenta wrote: | | Succubus1982 wrote: | | People are reading this completely wrong. It's not saying it's bad to play with dolls, or get married or wear makeup. It's just saying it's bad to force those ideals on people. They should get a choice. I never played with dolls as a child and still concider myself a functional woman, I'm not married either and I seldom ever wear makeup. And I'm happy. Feminists and Glossy are promoting freedom of choice, not the doctrine of society that says you are a bad person if you DON'T do this that and the other. It's not the dolls and marriage themselves that are bad you see. It's the fact that theres no option B. It's 'Girls are supposed to do this, they're supposed to wear pink and be ultra girly and laugh at all the guys jokes'. Which IS bullshit. |
I COULD KISS YOU RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST SOMEONE FUCKING GETS IT. |
I would like to thank you for making this comic make some sense to me, after Miss Magenta is done kissing you that is. _________________ Its not the goal in life to walk into Heaven with a perfect face and body, but to show up worn out, battle-scarred sliding in head first going, "Damn! That was fun!" |
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Monkey Mcdermott

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 2379
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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The number of sad insecure half-men that come sliming out from under a rock any time there's a feminism strip on sinfest makes me a saaaad panda. _________________
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Zhuinden
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Miss Magenta wrote: | | Succubus1982 wrote: | | People are reading this completely wrong. It's not saying it's bad to play with dolls, or get married or wear makeup. It's just saying it's bad to force those ideals on people. They should get a choice. I never played with dolls as a child and still concider myself a functional woman, I'm not married either and I seldom ever wear makeup. And I'm happy. Feminists and Glossy are promoting freedom of choice, not the doctrine of society that says you are a bad person if you DON'T do this that and the other. It's not the dolls and marriage themselves that are bad you see. It's the fact that theres no option B. It's 'Girls are supposed to do this, they're supposed to wear pink and be ultra girly and laugh at all the guys jokes'. Which IS bullshit. |
I COULD KISS YOU RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST SOMEONE FUCKING GETS IT.
In other, slightly unrelated news, glad to see that I was right about why the sisterhood chooses to wear sunglasses, and right about Minnie having purple hair. :J yeehaw. |
I just wish I could phrase all this as straight-to-the-point and effectively as you guys  |
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Ronald
Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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It mildly bemuses me how some people get so het up that they seem to forget that what we're seeing isn't the political belief system of an actual feminist organization. It's what one guy wrote and drew. These characters can't do or say or think anything that Tat doesn't decide for them -- doesn't command them -- to do and say and think.
Glossy's Sisterhood doesn't actually exist, okay? Get ahold of yourselves, people.
Sheesh.
On another note: Could what we're seeing on the screen be The Life of Fuchsia? That looks more like her than like any other known Devil Girl. |
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Dogen

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 8539 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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BluBlockers!
You're probably not old enough to remember those commercials... _________________ "Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. I’ll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman |
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tricksterson
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 101
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| cleocatra wrote: | For those with reading comprehension skills different to mine. My interpretation of this comic is that the patriarchy brainwashes people into thinking there's only one possible option.
That girls play with dolls, that they want to put on loads of make-up and that they then want to get married to a guy and that they should always be sexually available.
While those are okay options for people who want them, the issue is that these are then brainwashed as the only options with no room for error without being othered.
So give me glasses to hand out
I also like seeing why Glossie and the gang wear those glasses! Apart from looking cool that is. |
Unfortunately that's not how it comes across but as simply pushing one agenda intead of another. I'm not usually a Sisterhood basher but this particular page does come across as an anvil drop from orbit. Also as a commercial. Although I'll admit that part may be deliberate. _________________ I aim to misbehave |
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Heretical Rants

Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 2507
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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From my agreement with the sentiment of this comic springs forth an epic battle between my inner feminist and my inner and outer anti-ism-ists _________________ butts |
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Rothide
Joined: 14 Jul 2012 Posts: 86
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I find the problem with this is that isn't this kinda the parents job?
Back when I was a kid I used to watch cartoons with my parents all the time, they basically told me to think rationally about everything when it comes to stuff I see on TV. I remember watching road runner cartoons, and my mom and dad asking "now if you ran of a cliff in real life, what would happen to you?
It was the same when I was growing up. I asked if it was okay if I played with dolls along with my action figures, since most boys seem to never do that. They said it's your choice, and no one has control over you when it comes to those decisions.
So while I can understand in this style of comic with the "patriarchy" being an evil empire that is saturated in real life, rather than a vague idea or excuse, Monique saving Mini was needed, though I do wonder why it had to be her and the patriarchy, and not her family? |
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Mr. Chicken
Joined: 15 Dec 2011 Posts: 66 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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heh. Its fun that the first 8 panels could make a comic all by themselves.
Its so sad that this thread started with such a poor understanding of the meaning of this comic. So full of hate and arrogance. I dont wanto to discuss it, i get it. It is bad to force those ideals on people and they should get a choice. Not that the ideals are absolutly wrong, they are just one option.
Thats it.
On a side note, that cloud effect on the last panel. Perfect. So fluffy im gonna die. _________________ Hope never dies, so i wait for the salvation of the dammed. |
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TheJabawack

Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 66 Location: Caught somewhere in time
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Rothide wrote: | | I find the problem with this is that isn't this kinda the parents job? |
The problem is that nowadays most of the child-raising is done by the media without supervision.
On another note, as someone said before THEY LIVE GLASSES!  _________________ So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure;
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space;
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth |
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