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2013-1-30 Patriarchy Blockers Engaged
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LarsenSan



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
but what's even cuter is that he thinks he can judge who is and isn't a "feminist" when he doesn't understand a damn thing about feminism and couldn't actually tell you anything about it.

the proof of which is that he can't actually point to any examples of what he's talking about. he'll claim he can, but he can't.
Nobody asked me anything about it.

And besides, some of those pictures are sexy, there's no point denying it. Others are simply funny because some "artists" seem to forget that human body has bones. But seriously, there's nothing wrong with pictures. So something similar with men and all I will say would be "meh, don't care, I hope girls enjoy it though".

Oh, I don't undersand anything about feminism? Quite an enlighted one we have here, haha. C'mon, enlighten me.
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ShadowCell



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the absolute best part, though?

here he is, telling us who does and doesn't count as a "feminist" (or a "radical" or however he's going to try to backtrack now)

and now he tries to cover it up with questions and fake-machismo, when he joined KDX's ignorant chorus of "feminists are against choices!"--a statement that you'll note he never defended, largely because he can't.

larsensan, just stop. i've already dealt with you on substance, in the very post you quoted but to which you never responded, and to which you won't respond because you are too ignorant, too stupid, too cowardly, and ultimately too wrong to try. and you will prove me right, because you won't respond to anything substantive, you'll just sneer and posture some more, and in so doing only make yourself look even worse. that will happen. we all know it. you are incapable of doing otherwise.

go back to your cave now. the grown-ups are talking.
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LarsenSan



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
the absolute best part, though?

here he is, telling us who does and doesn't count as a "feminist" (or a "radical" or however he's going to try to backtrack now)

and now he tries to cover it up with questions and fake-machismo, when he joined KDX's ignorant chorus of "feminists are against choices!"--a statement that you'll note he never defended, largely because he can't.

larsensan, just stop. i've already dealt with you on substance, in the very post you quoted but to which you never responded, and to which you won't respond because you are too ignorant, too stupid, too cowardly, and ultimately too wrong to try. and you will prove me right, because you won't respond to anything substantive, you'll just sneer and posture some more, and in so doing only make yourself look even worse. that will happen. we all know it. you are incapable of doing otherwise.

go back to your cave now. the grown-ups are talking.
When did I joined KDX chorus? I NEVER said anything about it, nor I agree with it at all. Stop placing on my mouth words I never spoke.
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ShadowCell



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right here, you lying sack of shit

quoted, too, because, being a liar, you can't be trusted not to try to edit your words after the fact:

LarsenSan wrote:
ShadowCell wrote:
dipshit blockers engaged: translation engaged: hurrrrrrrr false equivalency

False equivalence: perfect trump card, use anytime in a feminism-related discussion. Rejects opponent's opinion even when he/she/it is right.

Seriously you are all made from the same mold. And it sucks.
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LarsenSan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
right here, you lying sack of shit

quoted, too, because, being a liar, you can't be trusted not to try to edit your words after the fact:

LarsenSan wrote:
ShadowCell wrote:
dipshit blockers engaged: translation engaged: hurrrrrrrr false equivalency

False equivalence: perfect trump card, use anytime in a feminism-related discussion. Rejects opponent's opinion even when he/she/it is right.

Seriously you are all made from the same mold. And it sucks.
I was atacking the use of the "false equivalence" bullshit, nothing more. But KDX had a point. I've seen women calling a woman "a slut" just because she was dressed sexy. Heck, one of them called her "a shame to all females".
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ShadowCell



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm sure you have, little boy

but since you're an established liar, not even honest enough to own up to your own words, why should you be believed?
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LarsenSan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
i'm sure you have, little boy

but since you're an established liar, how can we believe you?
Because I'm no liar, that was a misunderstanding. So, you can believe of not, that's your choice, I sincerely don't care. I know what I think and believe in what a believe.

Now if you excuse me I feel like playing Kizuna Encounter.
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ShadowCell



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

which i'm sure is why you spent so much time spouting lies and horseshit in this thread.

another lie! christ, you are so dishonest. please, go, we're all better off without you.

unless you're lying about that too.
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Ronald



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 2013-1-30 Patriarchy Blockers Engaged Reply with quote

From the strip's first four years, some examples of 'Nique's earlier more light-hearted if not downright wacky personality, most of which have nothing to do with sexuality per se:


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=51


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=52


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=165


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=213


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=236


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=255


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=279


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=280


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=323


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=326


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=438


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=453


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=535


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=634


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=650


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=753


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=901


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1149



http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1234


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1262


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1282

Hard to imagine the 'Nique "of today" saying and doing such whimsical things. As noted, 'Nique has "matured" to the extent that it would seem odd if she started behaving so whimsically again, but still, I think we can agree that the contrast is at least noticeable.

More examples later, maybe, or not, depending on whether or not I feel like it. Smile
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Leohan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 2013-1-30 Patriarchy Blockers Engaged Reply with quote

Ronald wrote:
Something that probably required a lot of work.


Thanks, dude. I should have done the same thing but was too lazy for that.
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Ronald



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 2013-1-30 Patriarchy Blockers Engaged Reply with quote

Leohan wrote:
Ronald wrote:
Something that probably required a lot of work.


Thanks, dude. I should have done the same thing but was too lazy for that.


You're welcome. Smile

Wasn't too very time-consuming. Just spent a second looking at each strip (skipped some entirely when a storyline lasted for a while) and noted the www and date of each "relevant" strip.
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Ronald



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 2013-1-30 Patriarchy Blockers Engaged Reply with quote

Here's a six-day run of 'Nique and Slick as wacky pals (with little if any sexual subtext):


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1752

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1753

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1754

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1755

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1756

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1757

I think it's fair to say that 'Nique of Today no longer has quite that brand of "zest for life."
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah man, this reminds me that sinfest used to be cool back in the days.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I skimmed through the last few pages and blah whatever, people grow up, their views change.

'Nique is doing just this.

However, there' no reason we can't have the Pimp Ninjas and Geisha Assassins brought back. Xanthe could be some sort of Shaolin styled buddhist warrior monk who helps elevate 'Nique beyond being just a mere geisha assassin. Big D could be some sort of evil shogun. Jesus would be a wandering Samurai. Crim could be a wise old sage up in the mountains. Fusch could be a swan maiden or something. Squig could take over as Geisha assassin. Buddha would be . . . um, himself?

Ok, so I've been watching Gintama, with it's own bad-ass Tsukuyo (月詠), also known as the Death God Courtesan (死神太夫, shinigami tayuu)

They're fuckin' up the bakufu real good right now in the anime. As much as I love the comedy in Gintama, the action is equally awesome.
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Leohan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr_Moustache wrote:
ah man, this reminds me that sinfest used to be cool back in the days.


ouldn't call it "Uncool" at this point (Hell, I have been following religiously since 2006, if I thought that it sucked I would have dropped it long ago.) It's just very, very different. And it's not even about the feminism thing, mind you. I think that a lot of the complainers take that as a scapegoat of why Sinfest changed. But then is when I remind you of the very tenth strip of Sinfest:



Thirteen years in the past, same message as today. Differences? 1 - It isn't preaching, just having fun with some ideas. 2 - It was not as ongoing.

BUT then again, I insist that the current strip is still fun. I just wish that 'Nique could develop more as a character* and that we could focus back into the characters that used to be the main ones(No hate at all towards Pebbles, Lime, the buttocksbots or Xanthe, but too many points of focus are appearing to call the strip focused at all... Well Xanthe is actually a pretty lame character. A bit of hate for her.)


* About that. Ronald was right to use the word "maturing" applied to 'Nique. It shouldn't be confused with evolving or developing. The character has matured in the sense that she has widened her perspective of the World and is acting a bit more like an adult. However, I think(and feel free to disagree) that she, as a character, has devolved, since she has dropped so many of the traits that make her into such a cool character. I'm optimist, though: There are still other paths open for her further development and Tat has proven himself to be able to make awesome happen.
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