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3-2-2013: Flipping Burgers
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Eiden



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious. Could someone summarize for me what stance the comic is asserting about porn? It is obviously editorializing the stance heavily and there is a significant anti-porn activist position being taken, but I do not know what the extent of it is.
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Sojobo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eiden wrote:
Could someone summarize for me what stance the comic is asserting about porn?

In the second panel, Slick asserts that the porn industry is no more exploitative than fast food. The fourth panel shows how ridiculous that is by showing porn industry exploitation in a fast food context. I think that's all the comic is saying, that the "just like any other job" argument is ridiculous.

The comic's not very good, though. The third panel implies that being downloaded and gotten off to is what makes porn exploitative, which is really a bit thoughtless. It would have been much better to simply eliminate the third panel, juxtaposing the 2nd and 4th to increase the impact.

Tat likes having four panels, so maybe just an extra panel with Curly staring at Slick disapprovingly would've been enough to finish it off.
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Ronald



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gibson22 wrote:
If you can't tell the difference from porn and athletes...


...you might be Squig.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redshirt26 wrote:
So Rule 34 also applies to flipping hamburgers? Huh, who knew?


Well, what do you know, that's twice in one morning that a thread on this forum has reminded me of the Gilberto Valle story...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, I can't believe I forgot about this:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/360878/me-time
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Eiden



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sojobo wrote:
Eiden wrote:
Could someone summarize for me what stance the comic is asserting about porn?

In the second panel, Slick asserts that the porn industry is no more exploitative than fast food. The fourth panel shows how ridiculous that is by showing porn industry exploitation in a fast food context. I think that's all the comic is saying, that the "just like any other job" argument is ridiculous.

The comic's not very good, though. The third panel implies that being downloaded and gotten off to is what makes porn exploitative, which is really a bit thoughtless. It would have been much better to simply eliminate the third panel, juxtaposing the 2nd and 4th to increase the impact.

Tat likes having four panels, so maybe just an extra panel with Curly staring at Slick disapprovingly would've been enough to finish it off.


Oh, thank you, but I was unclear. I meant the comic as a whole, throughout the history of Sinfest editorializing an anti-porn view. I know there has been a few comics which are overtly anti-porn, and I want to know the extent of that position.
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Samsally



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems kinda like Curly is the only one that really brings up the anti-porn thing. I don't recall it stretching much past her and people interacting with her.

I do have a terrible memory though.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sojobo wrote:
Eiden wrote:
Could someone summarize for me what stance the comic is asserting about porn?

In the second panel, Slick asserts that the porn industry is no more exploitative than fast food. The fourth panel shows how ridiculous that is by showing porn industry exploitation in a fast food context. I think that's all the comic is saying, that the "just like any other job" argument is ridiculous.

The comic's not very good, though. The third panel implies that being downloaded and gotten off to is what makes porn exploitative, which is really a bit thoughtless. It would have been much better to simply eliminate the third panel, juxtaposing the 2nd and 4th to increase the impact.

Tat likes having four panels, so maybe just an extra panel with Curly staring at Slick disapprovingly would've been enough to finish it off.
(emphasis added)
Right -- not all "exploitative" or merely unfair labor is created equal. Sweatshop labor or domestic indenture, for instance ARE exploitation, as opposed to merely undesirable like flipping burgers or part-timing at WalMart (FWIW, most victims of trafficking are so for those practices, not for the sex trades)

Curly (does it show my age I keep wanting to call her Angela?) in panel 3 gives her definition of a threshold of exploitation that seems to say what's "bad" about it is specifically what's happening in the mind of the end-consumer. That could lead someone to say, well sure, kcilS is a perv, but still the persons involved in making the the porn are doing so "freely" (when a choice to be exploited would likely be said by the Sisterhood to not be a "true" free choice, but one that has been compelled by necessity or coercion).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsally wrote:
It seems kinda like Curly is the only one that really brings up the anti-porn thing.


She doesn't even bring it up per se, she just sits there and lets people come to her. She's out there in her booth for no other reason than to talk to people about porn. If Squig, Devil Slick, or whoever else her critics are don't like it, maybe they should just walk on past. That'd show her. Wink

The fact that Curly so closely resembles a child (and that's presuming she is in fact not a child) makes it a bit awkward to ponder what sort of things might turn her on...
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