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Dennis J. Squidbunny
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Eiden
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| Rothide wrote: | | Eiden wrote: |
To be honest, I think they are already that. |
Be careful, your in danger of calling them Gary Stu's.
Edit: Correction they are already on the list... ... |
Mary Sues (Heavens! It is gendered!) -- no. I don't think that they are Mary Sues. They are transparent editorial vessels, present when Sinfest has become transparently political on the subject of gender issues and feminism.
Which I consider worse, for entirely selfish reasons. |
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Rothide
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The one with Lil Nique and the Patriarchy shades, a man was saying that he was sad that moniques personality changed, but the shades said he just wanted her to "Shake her ass".
No defense, just a direct "true intention" idea that means that the Sisterhood actually knows what men actually think, no matter what they might say.
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Dennis J. Squidbunny
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aboutwhistles
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| Being political is a good thing. It means you're invested in the world around you. |
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| Rothide wrote: | The one with Lil Nique and the Patriarchy shades, a man was saying that he was sad that moniques personality changed, but the shades said he just wanted her to "Shake her ass".
No defense, just a direct "true intention" idea that means that the Sisterhood actually knows what men actually think, no matter what they might say. |
That example doesn't apply. Lil Nique isn't using her own view of what men think. The Patriarchy Blockers translate for her. It's already established in the Sinfest universe that those glasses can decode Patriarchal misdirection.
It's not an inherent quality of females in the strip, so no female superiority is suggested there. |
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LadySunami
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| Rothide wrote: | The one with Lil Nique and the Patriarchy shades, a man was saying that he was sad that moniques personality changed, but the shades said he just wanted her to "Shake her ass".
No defense, just a direct "true intention" idea that means that the Sisterhood actually knows what men actually think, no matter what they might say. |
I still think they're "truth glasses" not "mind reading" glasses, akin to Wonder Woman's "Lasso of Truth."
Obviously both the Lasso of Truth and the sunglasses passed around by the Sisterhood are magic devices, not realistic ones. Although the mechanics might be interesting to debate, ultimately I think the answer is just going to be "it's magic."
I doubt Tatsuya is trying to say that male minds are easy to read or anything... Somehow the glasses just know. If you object to their use as a plot device, that's fine, but trying to argue that Tatsuya considers women to be the superior sex as we're all mind-readers is just silly.
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| Leohan wrote: | | What's the difference between that and an ad which depends on beautiful women to appeal to my sexual desire/lust? I don't see a lot of difference right there. As I said, nothing wrong with it. |
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Leohan
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| ShadowCell wrote: | | you honestly don't see the difference between using a person and using a hamburger in an advertisement? |
Oh, sure I do. Models get paid for a job well done. Hamburgers get eaten IF they are lucky.
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Darqcyde
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| ShadowCell wrote: | you honestly don't see the difference between using a person and using a hamburger in an advertisement?
i guess this explains why the hamburger one actually works on you |
A weird thought occurred to me. Chances are, if you see a billboard, magazine, or some other form of advertisement, with a model or with a cheeseburger, there's a good chance that they are both generally fake as fuck. We live in a sad, sad society in many subtle ways.
It's sad when we have things like this: http://www.zimbio.com/Cindy+Crawford/articles/2hehHy3Dlqs/Cindy+Crawford+says+wish+looked+like+Cindy
Or this (which has the subtitle of 'Fancy some motor oil, spray deodorant, and shoe polish with your dinner?')
http://www.pixiq.com/article/food-photo-tricks
Some of my favorites include:
| Quote: | White glue, used instead of milk for cereal photos and for pie repair (that would be the pie actually filled with mashed potatoes, where a serving-sized piece is cut out, with the resulting opening’s edges slathered with lemon custard or rhubarb-strawberry filling).
Motor oil, as a stand-in for unphotogenic syrups
Spray fabric protector, to prevent the motor-oil syrup from soaking into the pancake, which has bursting blueberries artfully pinned to it in an aesthetically pleasing, yet random, scattering (still hungry?). |
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Poor Squig... first porn and now food... There is nothing sacred? T-T
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Darqcyde
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wrong thread
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Ronald
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| Arkhron wrote: | | Poor Squig... first porn and now food... |
Which brings me back to seeing news about Gilberto Valle's trial, which combines porn and food in an exciting and different way. Sort of. |
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Sam
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| Eiden wrote: |
Mary Sues (Heavens! It is gendered!) -- no. I don't think that they are Mary Sues. They are transparent editorial vessels, present when Sinfest has become transparently political on the subject of gender issues and feminism.
Which I consider worse, for entirely selfish reasons. |
sup character development theory buddy, why it is almost like we had this conversation elsewhere word for word |
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Yinello
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I want the plus size lady with the cool glasses to become a Sinfest comic regular. <3
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