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Dennis J. Squidbunny



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUT DOGEN SURELY THE FIRST AMMENDMENT PROTECTS MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AND TOMATO THROWING?!?!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lich Mong wrote:
On a different topic, is it me or is Slick's character more or less completely defined by his interaction with Monique? I was trying to think what the little guy could do to met women, but it seems to me his hobbies and interests seem to be solely be defined by his relationship with Monique. Other than her he just has generic "guy" interests like sports and porn.

He needs to get out more.

Earlier in the strip, Slick often tried--unsuccessfully and, oh!, so hysterically clumsily--to pick up other women, so his interest in the ladies isn't solely limited to 'Nique. His problem, though, is that he really doesn't seem to see women as people; Monique is the singular exception to that. Slick actually does seem to occasionally care about what Monique thinks and about what's important to her. Otherwise, though, he doesn't really get outside his own head very much.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis J. Squidbunny wrote:
BUT DOGEN SURELY THE FIRST AMMENDMENT PROTECTS MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AND TOMATO THROWING?!?!

Nah; it protects your right to free speech, and my right to throw rotten fruit. Other than whom "you" and "I" may be in each case, isn't that how it's typically interpreted?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis J. Squidbunny wrote:
yeah, dude, women should really stop speaking up for themselves. When will they learn it just gets them a smack in the mouth?

Honestly why should women be allowed to speak their mind without fearing retaliation? Everyone knows that women shouldn't be allowed on stage anyway, it gets the men riled up and then they masturbate on the back of the seats. That's why the only popular stage shows are strip teases.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis J. Squidbunny wrote:
BUT DOGEN SURELY THE FIRST AMMENDMENT PROTECTS MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AND TOMATO THROWING?!?!


If I had a forum server which was hosted in the UK and grew popular all over the world, whenever anyone cried "BUT I AM OKAY TO THROW VITROL, HATE AND DEATH THREATS ON SOMEONE BECAUSE I DISLIKE WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE FIRST AMENDMENT!" then I would make their log in auto direct to http://www.civilrightsmovement.co.uk/faq-what-classed-hate-speech.html
Sure they could just make a new account but fuck them.

This is just me getting pissed off over USians assuming the whole internet is USian.

I admit one dude was arrested using the anti-hate speech laws for calling a Bobby's horse "gay" but he was let off without charge and they've mostly been used properly.

Throwing a tomato at someone is basically assault, while not gbh (which would be throwing a rock at them) but how do you know that these assholes won't bring rocks to her next show?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh, you know Dennis is an Aussie, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis is OOOORSTRAAAAALIAN
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogen wrote:
Lich Mong wrote:
she still has more of a right to speak than they do to throw tomatos.

This is the only correct response to that situation. The only one.
That's why I made it my "bottom line." One can argue otherwise all one wants, but that's the bottom line.
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Earlier in the strip, Slick often tried--unsuccessfully and, oh!, so hysterically clumsily--to pick up other women, so his interest in the ladies isn't solely limited to 'Nique. His problem, though, is that he really doesn't seem to see women as people; Monique is the singular exception to that. Slick actually does seem to occasionally care about what Monique thinks and about what's important to her. Otherwise, though, he doesn't really get outside his own head very much.
I'm more complaining that he doesn't seem like a real human. His actions and reactions are all generic, stereotypical, 2D.
I mean, what's his job? What was his childhood like? What does he like to do for fun? What are his hobbies? What's his plan for his life? I know very little about his past outside of the timeline of the comic, and I know even less about what he wants from the future other than "money and women."

His only real defining point, the only thing that makes him seem like a real person with hopes and dreams, is his interaction with Monique.

He's like... like, a magical pixie dream GUY... or something...

I'm having trouble explaining what I mean. You guys have no idea what I'm talking about... do you? It's just me seeing this, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia doesn't actually exist, though. it was a hoax that somehow made it into a Dan Brown novel.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lich Mong wrote:
I'm more complaining that he doesn't seem like a real human. His actions and reactions are all generic, stereotypical, 2D.
I mean, what's his job? What was his childhood like? What's his plan for his life? What does he want to do with himself? I know very little about his past outside of the timeline of the comic, and I know even less about what he wants from the future other than "money and women."

Well, but we don't really know that much about any of the other characters' pasts, either (well, other than Lil' E, Blue, and D-man. And Jesus and Buddha, but less from in-canon flashbacks than from actual religious teachings.) Monique, we know, shifts from cause to cause, growing and changing a little, each time. And Slick does his own growing, too, but he always backslides. Hell, I know people like that in meatspace!

I actually see Squig as more stuck, stereotypical, and lacking in dimension than Slick. Slick actually does try, every once in a while, to change, to improve himself. Sometimes, he even succeeds, for a short time. But, inevitably, he winds up falling back into his old, comfortable views and habits, after a while. He's the Seeker who's just not ready to be free of the Wheel of Life, yet. Remember, he starts the whole of Sinfest off by selling his soul! He's still very caught up in the world and its pleasures and illusions. Maybe not quite as much as Squig, who doesn't even seem willing to try severing his ties to his vices, but still a long way from Monique, who's managed to see through some of the falsehood.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitflipper wrote:
uh, you know Dennis is an Aussie, right?

Yeah, I can read below the icon where it says "location". I've just been annoyed about USians believing they're the only ones on the internet for a while.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
Australia doesn't actually exist, though. it was a hoax that somehow made it into a Dan Brown novel.


Australia is fictional, like the g-spot and most vegans (they're actually chickens who know how to type).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've just been annoyed about USians believing they're the only ones on the internet for a while.

Pfeh. Who have you been hanging out with? USians believe we're the only people in the entire world!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cleocatra wrote:
bitflipper wrote:
uh, you know Dennis is an Aussie, right?

Yeah, I can read below the icon where it says "location". I've just been annoyed about USians believing they're the only ones on the internet for a while.

It's worse than that, even. We only have a right to be protected from government infringing on our free speech, not anyone else, but every time someone gets a comment on a news story deleted for being a raging dickhole they claim their right to free speech is being violated. So not only are they insular, they can't even figure out their own goddamn culture.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lich Mong wrote:


He's like... like, a magical pixie dream GUY... or something...

I'm having trouble explaining what I mean. You guys have no idea what I'm talking about... do you? It's just me seeing this, isn't it?


It's "manic pixie dream" and they're generally people who inspire other people with their quirky way of life, the happy green devil and Pebbles are more manic pixie examples.

I went on tv tropes to look up manic pixie dream boys and found:

To many a troubled teenage girl in the 60's, one strange man with quirky and unique outlook on the world, urging them to follow him into a series of adventures in togetherness, could qualify as a manic pixie dream guy. That man was Charles Manson.

LOL

also a great male example would be Kamina from Gurren Lagann
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