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Heretical Rants



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsally wrote:

They all are separate things. Of course it's hypocritical to fight for one and not them all, but they are not the same thing. To treat them as such would make it impossible to root out the problems at their sources.


I've gotten past that. You won me over in that exchange. That's not what I'm objecting to here.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I really don't understand, I'm sorry. If you were just objecting to people baiting each other than I apologize because that's a totally valid thing to complain about and a pretty constant source of conversation on the forums.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm missing what your complaint is as well.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think the problem is that HR is falling for a false equivalence between "MRA" and "feminism".
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! That would make sense.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, shoot, I hope I didn't come off as a MRA person-I realize most of the issues involving public perception of grown men interacting with children (ESPECIALLY female children) *stem* from, well, patriarchal expectations. We're not considered nuturers: That's not MANLY RAR, so any man interacting with a young girl MUST be suspect.

The thread just seemed to have segued a bit, so I felt like posting that there.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you did. I think the jeart of MRA crap is the denial that there women suffer under sexism while also putting forth that men suffer terribly from misandry. Acknowledging that innocent men get caught up in the fear of men as predators as you did is a bit different.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
I actually think the problem is that HR is falling for a false equivalence between "MRA" and "feminism".


*ragequits forever*


thanks, Monkey! You're always a great help.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you can't be assed to do more than throw one liners telling people how they are pissing you off without explaining, maybe you should ragequit forever.

I'll tell you what, if they're so equivalent and both have equally problematic elements why don't we go example for example between MRA sites and radfem sites for problematic bullshit and give examples, and see who peters out first?
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
Well if you can't be assed to do more than throw one liners telling people how they are pissing you off without explaining, maybe you should ragequit forever.

I'll tell you what, if they're so equivalent and both have equally problematic elements why don't we go example for example between MRA sites and radfem sites for problematic bullshit and give examples, and see who peters out first?


you underestimate the depth of the bullshit on the internet. whipping em out to compare will accomplish nothing but the sad realization that disgusting, dehumanizing, counter-intuitive and dogmatic groups of people will crop up anywhere and everywhere. There is literally too much of both to worry about which is larger, imo.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By all means try to hand wave it away as "just the internet"

You're wrong btw.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just for clarification, I do not think radical feminism and MRA are equally wrong or problematic, although, I bet you could define both words in a manner which makes that true. I'm saying the penchant for dehumanization, pointless insults, and general vitriol are both large enough to make measurement irrelevant.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
By all means try to hand wave it away as "just the internet"

You're wrong btw.


how can I learn if all I know is you think I'm wrong? come on, help me out Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thenadathor wrote:
Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
By all means try to hand wave it away as "just the internet"

You're wrong btw.


how can I learn if all I know is you think I'm wrong? come on, help me out Smile


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