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2013-06-29: Pedotron Needs Little Girls
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Strawberrycocoa



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't always agree with the Sisterhood, but this is a good reaction.

Re: defending pedophiles, I can get that they may have a condition, but ACTING on it is a decision, and self control is everyone's responsibility. Failing that self control when you KNOW you are hurting someone else is inexcusable.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to side with the pedophiles, even though I don't normally like the sisterhood, but Tat has again given me a chance to at least smile at a strip they are in.

Though for the sake of argument, other people that would have come to Mini-Nique's aid if they were around:

Monique
Fushia
Crimney
Lil'E
Squig
Slick

Didn't include the girl Lil'E hangs out with (forget her name, I have a really bad memory) because I think she's be a bit too naive to understand what would be going on, though this is if she was alone, if she was with the others she'd fight because she'd imitating what the others were doing.

Either way, good strip, didn't make me rage, 10/10
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
oh Tat, you devil, you.

i knew someone was going to come in here and, because they hate the sisterhood that bad, they'd find some way to force themselves to side with the pedophile.


Oooh....that is clever.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogen wrote:
Ronald wrote:
Just to play the middle here, if the alien's planet had a different name and the alien wasn't holding a lollipop, would our reactions still be so visceral? Would we still presume "needs little girls" means what Tat obviously intends it to mean if Tat had not in fact been so obvious?

Are you asking if people responded viscerally because the comic references pedophiles picking up underage girls?


Well, not quite. What I meant is, if all the strip had given us to go on was "needs little girls", would everyone have immediately presumed that Tat was making a pedophilic reference?

Really, though, it's not important. Like I said, it was just something that popped into my head (and I was still half-asleep at the time, anyway), so I tossed it out there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rothide wrote:
I'm not going to side with the pedophiles, even though I don't normally like the sisterhood, but Tat has again given me a chance to at least smile at a strip they are in.

Though for the sake of argument, other people that would have come to Mini-Nique's aid if they were around:

Monique
Fushia
Crimney
Lil'E
Squig
Slick

Didn't include the girl Lil'E hangs out with (forget her name, I have a really bad memory) because I think she's be a bit too naive to understand what would be going on, though this is if she was alone, if she was with the others she'd fight because she'd imitating what the others were doing.

Either way, good strip, didn't make me rage, 10/10


None of those others are actually mobilized, nor put effort into looking out for those who might be victimized or taken advantage of. The Sisterhood makes it their job to get in between creeps and their victims, among other things. They put effort and dedication into stopping abuse.

Don't take the "if they were around" part for granted. Don't take that kind of effort for granted. Those who make a difference and actually stand in the way of creeps and abusers don't just fall into that role by accident. They make themselves aware, they bear the burden of awareness, and they should get credit for the effort of what they do.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can think of oodles of awesome people who would have done something when I was being harassed who didn't happen to be around when harassment occurred.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again the Mary Sues that are the Sisterhood forces their views into the comics. I mean why do they always have to be the hero for everything!? I mean what is wrong with...um...one moment, I got to reread the comic to see what they were opposing.


...well this is awkward.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than risk further demonstrating my cluelessness on the main topic, I decided to in fact check the archives for aliens.

Going strictly by "two arms, two legs, two slug-like feelers sticking out of their heads," similar aliens include:


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2534

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3114
(well, okay, those might be just attached to the hat, no way to be sure)

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3980
(maybe, the feelers might be under the cowl; the "sexual" subtext seemed to potentially link this alien to some of the others)

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4179

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4256

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4375

Also, arguably:

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2625
(because, really, how much of that strip's "events" are we supposed to think were "real"? if Slick could really transform himself into a giant hundreds of feet tall, he'd probably do it a lot more often)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rune wrote:
Rothide wrote:
I'm not going to side with the pedophiles, even though I don't normally like the sisterhood, but Tat has again given me a chance to at least smile at a strip they are in.

Though for the sake of argument, other people that would have come to Mini-Nique's aid if they were around:

Monique
Fushia
Crimney
Lil'E
Squig
Slick

Didn't include the girl Lil'E hangs out with (forget her name, I have a really bad memory) because I think she's be a bit too naive to understand what would be going on, though this is if she was alone, if she was with the others she'd fight because she'd imitating what the others were doing.

Either way, good strip, didn't make me rage, 10/10


None of those others are actually mobilized, nor put effort into looking out for those who might be victimized or taken advantage of. The Sisterhood makes it their job to get in between creeps and their victims, among other things. They put effort and dedication into stopping abuse.

Don't take the "if they were around" part for granted. Don't take that kind of effort for granted. Those who make a difference and actually stand in the way of creeps and abusers don't just fall into that role by accident. They make themselves aware, they bear the burden of awareness, and they should get credit for the effort of what they do.


They are BATMAN. But Seriously...

It looked to me like the Child Abuser, though, was in the same general area as the Sisterhood in the "Women Zone" Only Xzanthe has her trike, the other two are on foot. I got them impression that they were close, and I just said that if the other people were close too, they would have stepped up too. If they are patrolling for this kind of activity, yes they deserve praise, however if they were just close enough to see, then I believe that any decent human being would have stepped in here too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One must wonder if they would have bothered to show up if Pedotron was looking for little boys.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stripeypants wrote:
ShadowCell wrote:
oh Tat, you devil, you.

i knew someone was going to come in here and, because they hate the sisterhood that bad, they'd find some way to force themselves to side with the pedophile.


Oooh....that is clever.


Well, I'm a big Sisterhood fan and am in no way "siding" with the Pedatronian, but a more obvious "defense" approach would've been to simply point out that, really, whatever the Pedatronian's motives and intentions, all he/she/it has actually done so far is to hold up a sign. It might be a bit premature to deem him/her/it worthy of execution.

Of course, one could further point out, with equal accuracy, that all the Sisterhood has done so far is to threaten the Pedotronian. They might have no intention of going so far as to actually kill him/her/it.

Plus, for all we know, the Sisterhood possess detailed knowledge about this particular Pedotronian, perhaps received in an information exchange with the grateful Corruptronians. Maybe he/she/it has the death sentence in twelve systems OSLT.

Either way, it's not as if Tat's going to depict the Sisterhood actually killing the Pedotronian, so I'll admit that it's pretty much a moot point.

On another note, if Tat decides to follow up on this strip in tomorrow's Sunday strip, it's hard to predict how he'd manage it without dialogue, so...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, continuing:

Here we have an alien with only one feeler:

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2986

But notice that some of the Emotopians have two feelers, so maybe having just one feeler is merely a variation within the two-feeler alien race.

Here's an alien with two feelers but not two legs:

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3268

Then again, this alien is ill, which might be why he/she/it doesn't have two legs.

So it would appear that the two-feeler aliens have colonized quite a few planets. Since they've appeared in the past four or five alien strips, Tat seems to have settled upon them as the "default" alien race.

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Moving along, we also have the "two arms, two legs, two antennae" aliens:


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=908

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1647

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1741

In contrast, we have the "three tendrils sticking out of their heads" aliens, none of whom have appeared in a "spaceship and sign" type strip:


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=215
(apparently they share their planet with "one eye, one antenna" aliens)

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2168
(they couldn't just show up with a sign reading Xanturia Needs Cows? maybe they just got lost trying to reach The Far Side...)

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2685

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2693

There are also sign-bearing aliens who fit none of the above categories...


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1649

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2093
(this one might have feelers or antennae under the helmet, no way to tell)

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2871

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3717

invading aliens who arguably resemble the Cultronians, a little....

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2140

and, of course, these little guys*:

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3266

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3267

Notice that very few of these aliens are actually seen to leave Earth. For all we know, the rest are still around somewhere.

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*a planet with civilization? where, behind the Earth? Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diagram12345 wrote:
ShadowCell wrote:
oh Tat, you devil, you.

i knew someone was going to come in here and, because they hate the sisterhood that bad, they'd find some way to force themselves to side with the pedophile.


Heh.

What's a word for "that which makes you laugh and cry at the same time"? If it doesn't exist, we need to create one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tricksterson wrote:
One must wonder if they would have bothered to show up if Pedotron was looking for little boys.

Only if one feels the need to assume things without evidence. Is that what you like to do? We might not get along.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
oh Tat, you devil, you.

i knew someone was going to come in here and, because they hate the sisterhood that bad, they'd find some way to force themselves to side with the pedophile.
tricksterson wrote:
One must wonder if they would have bothered to show up if Pedotron was looking for little boys.

OOOOOOH NICE ESCAPE FROM CHECKMATE, TRICKSTERSON
WHAT NOW SHADOWCELL HUH?
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