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kame
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2563 Location: Alba Nuadh
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: This Only Applies to 75% of Iraq, mind you. |
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Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam'
Torture may be worse now in Iraq than under former leader Saddam Hussein, the UN's chief anti-torture expert says.
Manfred Nowak said the situation in Iraq was "out of control", with abuses being committed by security forces, militia groups and anti-US insurgents.
Bodies found in the Baghdad morgue "often bear signs of severe torture", said the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq in a report.
The wounds confirmed reports given by refugees from Iraq, Mr Nowak said.
He told journalists at a briefing in Geneva that he had yet to visit Iraq, but he was able to base his information on autopsies and interviews with Iraqis in neighbouring Jordan.
"What most people tell you is that the situation as far as torture is concerned now in Iraq is totally out of hand," the Austrian law professor said.
"The situation is so bad many people say it is worse than it has been in the times of Saddam Hussein," he added.
Brutal methods
The UN report says detainees' bodies often show signs of beating using electrical cables, wounds in heads and genitals, broken legs and hands, electric and cigarette burns.
Bodies found at the Baghdad mortuary "often bear signs of severe torture including acid-induced injuries and burns caused by chemical substances".
Many bodies have missing skin, broken bones, back, hands and legs, missing eyes, missing teeth and wounds caused by power drills or nails, the UN report says.
Victims come from prisons run by US-led multinational forces as well as by the ministries of interior and defence and private militias, the report said.
The most brutal torture methods were employed by private militias, Mr Nowak told journalists.
The report also says the frequency of sectarian bloodletting means bodies are often found which "bear signs indicating that the victims have been brutally tortured before their extra-judicial execution".
It concludes that torture threatens "the very fabric of the country" as victims exact their own revenge and fuel further violence.
Mr Nowak said he would like to visit Iraq in person, but the current situation would not allow him to prepare an accurate report, because it would not be safe to leave Baghdad's heavily guarded Green Zone where the Iraqi government and US leadership are situated. |
Dear Mr. President, please pull your head out of your ass, sincerely, The Rest of the World. _________________ bi-chromaticism is the extraordinary belief that there exists only two options
each polar opposite to each other
where one is completely superior to the other. |
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jsimpleton

Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 143 Location: maryland/dc area USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: Re: This Only Applies to 75% of Iraq, mind you. |
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| kame wrote: |
Dear Mr. President, please pull your head out of your ass, sincerely, The Rest of the World. |
And a considerable amount of people in the US, don't forget US  |
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Azmoten

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 2207 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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The US is not part of the world. Fo sho _________________ "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life."
-Solid Jackson (From Jingo, by Terry Pratchett) |
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Him

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3955 Location: Strange planet
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Oh wow. I am suprised. _________________ "Moderation in temper, is always a virtue; but moderation in principle, is a species of vice. " - Thomas Paine |
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The Victim Here

Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 2816 Location: Almost Not Trinity.
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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...for if the bomb that drops on you,
Gets your friends and neighbors too...
There'll be be no one left behind to grieve.
We'll all go together, when we go!
What a comforting fact that is to know!
And I bet ya it'll be the USA's fault. _________________ Colours? What colours? |
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jeep

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 501
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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So I read that the former United States is so desperate for medical supplies that they have allegedly sent several containers filled with wheat and tobacco. A gesture, they said, of good will. You wanna know what I think? Well, you're listening to my show, so I will assume you do... I think it's high time we let the colonies know what we really think of them. I think its payback time for a little tea party they through for us a few hundred years ago. I say we go down to those docks tonight and dump that crap where everything from the Ulcered Sphincter of Ass-erica belongs! Who's with me? Who's bloody with me?
USA... Ulcered Sphincter of Ass-erica, I mean what else can you say? Here was a country that had everything, absolutely everything. And now, 20 years later, is what? The world's biggest leper colony. Why? Godlessness. Let me say that again... Godlessness. It wasn't the war they started. It wasn't the plague they created. It was Judgement. No one escapes their past. No one escapes Judgement. You think he's not up there? You think he's not watching over this country? How else can you explain it? He tested us, but we came through. We did what we had to do. Islington. Enfield. I was there, I saw it all. Immigrants, Muslims, homosexuals, terrorists. Disease-ridden degenerates. They had to go. Strength through unity. Unity through faith. I'm a God-fearing Englishman and I'm goddamn proud of it! |
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Uncle Taylorbell

Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3191 Location: Northern England
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| jeep wrote: | | USA... Ulcered Sphincter of Ass-erica, I mean what else can you say? Here was a country that had everything, absolutely everything. And now, 20 years later, is what? The world's biggest leper colony. Why? Godlessness. Let me say that again... Godlessness. It wasn't the war they started. It wasn't the plague they created. It was Judgement. No one escapes their past. No one escapes Judgement. You think he's not up there? You think he's not watching over this country? How else can you explain it? He tested us, but we came through. We did what we had to do. Islington. Enfield. I was there, I saw it all. Immigrants, Muslims, homosexuals, terrorists. Disease-ridden degenerates. They had to go. Strength through unity. Unity through faith. I'm a God-fearing Englishman and I'm goddamn proud of it! |
You should really let Al Murray do his job unimpeded. Really. |
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