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2013-07-27: It's Raining Porn
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Heretical Rants



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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blah blah blah getting tired of Sinfest blah


ALSO
also also

I have no idea why vorarephilia was brought up in this thread

I don't see what that has to do with Sam's imperialism porn, nor how it's something worth specifically targeting.

I think it says more about the person who brought it up than anything, that that's the first thing they thought of when pressed to think of "something horrible"

Mainstream porn is usually far more disturbing, and also more indicative of what's rotten about the porn industry, than anything so niche (and produced in so innocuous of a way)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MerchManDan wrote:
locuas wrote:
in that case, sam has to have some of the most disturbing, twisted, disgusting, and unbelievable fetishes in the world......probably vore

I don't see why that has to be the case. What SORT of porn Sam enjoys is less important than Libbys objections to it; if he respects her at all, he'd give it up.


Even if he is unable to fix this problem on his own, it seems inexcusable for him to have crammed displays cabinets of this stuff, knowing how she feels about it. I suppose Uncle Sam never was very subtle.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did Libery ask sam to do something about all the porn he had? i mean, outside of telling him she did not like it. Sam should try to be a better husband and try to do something about it, but liberty should not just expect sam to know how much she dislikes that part of him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like others have said, it's not so much the porn as the way Sam treats Liberty over it. He knows Liberty doesn't like it at all. He doesn't try to communicate with her let alone compromise. It's really annoying to see.

That said, Sinfest is still pretty anti-porn, a stance I'm not in favor of as well. I'd love to see a devil girl who has started her own sexy stripper business which is fully consentual.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yinello wrote:
Like others have said, it's not so much the porn as the way Sam treats Liberty over it. He knows Liberty doesn't like it at all. He doesn't try to communicate with her let alone compromise. It's really annoying to see.

But compromise should come from both ways. If liberty expects sam to just throw away ALL of his porn, she is asking too much. She is basically opressing sam to be the way she wants.
what liberty should do is to ask Sam to throw away some of his porn, probably the more offensive ones, and she, in turn, would compromise to be a little more accepting of the stuff sam watches.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

locuas wrote:
Yinello wrote:
Like others have said, it's not so much the porn as the way Sam treats Liberty over it. He knows Liberty doesn't like it at all. He doesn't try to communicate with her let alone compromise. It's really annoying to see.

But compromise should come from both ways. If liberty expects sam to just throw away ALL of his porn, she is asking too much. She is basically opressing sam to be the way she wants.
what liberty should do is to ask Sam to throw away some of his porn, probably the more offensive ones, and she, in turn, would compromise to be a little more accepting of the stuff sam watches.


So... when will the people who are going to argue this going to show up?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I'm waiting for Dennis or Monkey to show up and just cuss locuas out, because I cannot be arsed getting involved in this.

Fine, I will say that locuas has no idea what "oppressing" people is. That's it though, I hand the argument torch over to someone else.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

knappetroll wrote:
locuas wrote:
Yinello wrote:
Like others have said, it's not so much the porn as the way Sam treats Liberty over it. He knows Liberty doesn't like it at all. He doesn't try to communicate with her let alone compromise. It's really annoying to see.

But compromise should come from both ways. If liberty expects sam to just throw away ALL of his porn, she is asking too much. She is basically opressing sam to be the way she wants.
what liberty should do is to ask Sam to throw away some of his porn, probably the more offensive ones, and she, in turn, would compromise to be a little more accepting of the stuff sam watches.


So... when will the people who are going to argue this going to show up?

We're just shaking our heads and not bothering.
I'm not anti-porn in general, and the sinfest anti-all-porn stance can grate at me, but with the way things have played out with these two there's simply no defense of him. Period. And anyone arguing that there is is so deep down entrenched in their apologetics and misogyny that they can't even see sunlight anymore, or they haven't read all the back story and I don't really have the energy to explain it strip by strip.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, y'know, liberty should be willing to let sam oppress a few people, because, y'know, that's just what men gotta do, y'know? asking him not to get off on oppressing people is like asking a fish not to swim! he wouldn't be uncle sam if he couldn't oppress people. it's not like he's hurting anyone, besides the fact that he's hurting lots of people!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
he wouldn't be uncle sam if he couldn't oppress people.


That part might actually be a bit right.

It is his main defining characteristic at the moment after all.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isnn't vore. He specifically likes to invade, oppressand degrade other. countries - whch are represented as women in the porn he watches.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

locuas wrote:

But compromise should come from both ways. If liberty expects sam to just throw away ALL of his porn, she is asking too much. She is basically opressing sam to be the way she wants.
what liberty should do is to ask Sam to throw away some of his porn, probably the more offensive ones, and she, in turn, would compromise to be a little more accepting of the stuff sam watches.


Well, LEGALLY according to most USA marriage property laws, its her porn too so she can pretty much do whatever she wants with it.

Ideally you should compromise, but somethings you can't. It's the cost of being in a relationship. I dated someone and one of the conditions was "no alcohol, not even one beer, not ever under any circumstances". And it was not up for discussion because that person was an individual with their own unique baggage. And I loved and respected that person enough to do that (even if I thought it was a little overkill). I have my own "you do this once and you're done" conditions. And I expect someone that's married to me to respect me enough to know why I have that limit and to follow it.

Besides Sam's a fucking cheater. Fuck cheaters. When's Justice going to come and show Liberty how a real relationship works?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Peanut Gallery wrote:
When's Justice going to come and show Liberty how a real relationship works?


i ship this C:
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
The Peanut Gallery wrote:
When's Justice going to come and show Liberty how a real relationship works?


i ship this C:


Omg yes.

This was all I could find:
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/234/0/5/Liberty_and_Justice_by_duskflare.jpg
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