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locuas



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

despite what the sisterhood may have told you, porn is not a sin because it is not female friendly(or because it has girls on it), but rather because it would be the fall into our carnal desires. it is a sin that sometimes is not female friendly. for example(and just to give an example) let's say you are using coal to get energy, but people tell you that you are contaminating, so you change it...for petrol. it is the same problem, you have not changed anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rate your post on a 6 over 10. Well developed but missing the hell of the point (get it? get it?). Extra points for the example, it remembers me the rothide way of being wrong.

Next time include sentient toasters and you have me.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Istancow wrote:
No, Hell-lite's the place across the street from Sinner-Friendly Hell. But they don't have good safety practices.

I mean, not that I would know. But, you know, I heard. Indirectly.


maybe I should join there instead, work to reform the place

but that seems kind of presumptuous; they've got their status quo, and besides, I don't even know what the proper safety practices are for some of the more extreme things they do there
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is Sinner-Friendly Hell, the same as Heck, or just next door to it?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neither, Heck's an airplane
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yinello wrote:
I'm actually quite interested in the fact that Squig has been looking at female friendly porn. Seeing as he knows that, does that mean he's been looking for it deliberately? Character development!?!?! (I'm hoping for too much aren't I)


Correction: Squig was looking at what HE, from his position of privilege and power over females, decided was 'female-friendly' porn.

Hence, he is now being sent to what a higher authority in Hell, from *their* position of privilege and power over *him*, decided was a 'sinner-friendly' Hell.

At least, that's how I read it. ^^
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except God's a dudebro as established by Xanthe using his mopey tears, and Satan also wouldn't care about someone looking at non-female friendly porn (And would perhaps encourage it) since he has a vested interest in maintaining the patriarchy (or, at least, he seems to enjoy doing it),

So.. then.. wait what?

Is there some third entity that judges what is a "send you to hell before you die" level offense or something?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Felgraf wrote:
Except God's a dudebro as established by Xanthe using his mopey tears, and Satan also wouldn't care about someone looking at non-female friendly porn (And would perhaps encourage it) since he has a vested interest in maintaining the patriarchy (or, at least, he seems to enjoy doing it),

So.. then.. wait what?

Is there some third entity that judges what is a "send you to hell before you die" level offense or something?


I agree with Onimaru's interpretation that Hell just straight-up likes to troll people, regardless of their exact circumstances. (Li'l E's "pity party" is an especially good example of trolling. He hadn't even done anything wrong, yet he wound up in Hell).

But you do raise an interesting question of who specifically is bomfing everyone down there. Maybe Hell itself is sentient and acts of its own accord? Wink
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Sam



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

locuas wrote:
porn is not a sin because it is not female friendly(or because it has girls on it), but rather because it would be the fall into our carnal desires.


by the same ruleset that declares homosexuality or having sex outside of marriage is a sin, yes, porn is objectively a bad thing. it's all the same assy grab-bag of policing sexuality, though.

meanwhile off in the real world porn can and does get created which is a perfectly legitimate and positive expression of human sexuality
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that all porn, 'female friendly' or not, _can_ be harmful. But I would add that whether it actually is, depends on the actual context of who is viewing it. In the case of a anthropomorphised pig, yes, fine: I can believe that he would use the most objectively innocent pornography in an objectifying manner. But this puts him in a bind: all of his sexuality is harmful, whether to himself or another person, so long as he is who he is. But probably vanilla pornography is the least harmful option, since he is only harming himself.
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locuas



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
locuas wrote:
porn is not a sin because it is not female friendly(or because it has girls on it), but rather because it would be the fall into our carnal desires.


by the same ruleset that declares homosexuality or having sex outside of marriage is a sin, yes, porn is objectively a bad thing. it's all the same assy grab-bag of policing sexuality, though.

meanwhile off in the real world porn can and does get created which is a perfectly legitimate and positive expression of human sexuality


we can have an entire argument about it. my point was, he was wrong to asume that by just watching female friendly porn everything was OK
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hekateras wrote:
Yinello wrote:
I'm actually quite interested in the fact that Squig has been looking at female friendly porn. Seeing as he knows that, does that mean he's been looking for it deliberately? Character development!?!?! (I'm hoping for too much aren't I)


Correction: Squig was looking at what HE, from his position of privilege and power over females, decided was 'female-friendly' porn.

Hence, he is now being sent to what a higher authority in Hell, from *their* position of privilege and power over *him*, decided was a 'sinner-friendly' Hell.

At least, that's how I read it. ^^


During one of his conversations with Curly, he wanted to talk about 'female-friendly' porn. He was showing her a website, and she was all, "Where is it?" And he's all, "Right there!" And she read off a bunch of things that were racist and not 'female-friendly', to which he replied, "No, right there!" Basically it was way down on the page, hard to find, and we never got to see if it actually was 'female-friendly.'

I believe the joke here in this comic is that he's watching exploitative porn and making himself feel better about it by calling it 'friendly.' So he's fallen into actual hell, but it is called 'sinner friendly' hell, as well as being labelled classy. So he's still about to be abused and punished, but in a place that has a pretense to concern for his wellbeing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
locuas wrote:
porn is not a sin because it is not female friendly(or because it has girls on it), but rather because it would be the fall into our carnal desires.


by the same ruleset that declares homosexuality or having sex outside of marriage is a sin, yes, porn is objectively a bad thing. it's all the same assy grab-bag of policing sexuality, though.

meanwhile off in the real world porn can and does get created which is a perfectly legitimate and positive expression of human sexuality


I love ya Sam but care to bet i can go 3 for 1 on horrible exploitative hate fantasy porn sites vs legitimate positive expression of human sexuality porn sites?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
Sam wrote:
locuas wrote:
porn is not a sin because it is not female friendly(or because it has girls on it), but rather because it would be the fall into our carnal desires.


by the same ruleset that declares homosexuality or having sex outside of marriage is a sin, yes, porn is objectively a bad thing. it's all the same assy grab-bag of policing sexuality, though.

meanwhile off in the real world porn can and does get created which is a perfectly legitimate and positive expression of human sexuality


I love ya Sam but care to bet i can go 3 for 1 on horrible exploitative hate fantasy porn sites vs legitimate positive expression of human sexuality porn sites?


Only 3? I'd not be surprised if it was in the double digits to one, seriously not surprised.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
Sam wrote:
locuas wrote:
porn is not a sin because it is not female friendly(or because it has girls on it), but rather because it would be the fall into our carnal desires.


by the same ruleset that declares homosexuality or having sex outside of marriage is a sin, yes, porn is objectively a bad thing. it's all the same assy grab-bag of policing sexuality, though.

meanwhile off in the real world porn can and does get created which is a perfectly legitimate and positive expression of human sexuality


I love ya Sam but care to bet i can go 3 for 1 on horrible exploitative hate fantasy porn sites vs legitimate positive expression of human sexuality porn sites?


... I'm sure you can, that doesn't exactly negate his statement that porn can and does get created that is positive and not exploitative.

He made no qualitative statement about whether or not it was the majority of porn. He simply said "Hey it is possible for porn to exist that is not exploitative towards women. It is out there".

I'm sure I could go 3 for 1 with you on, say, scientists vs. creationists, but that doesn't mean scientists don't exist.
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