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2013-09-22: Garden of Eden
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:19 am    Post subject: 2013-09-22: Garden of Eden Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this was an early Sunday comic.

Ooooh backstory! Oh man young Devil is the best. Look at that third-from-last panel. Look at his face. How could you say no to that face.

Dat colouring just wow Tat stop outdoing yourself it's getting ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And so it begins!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooooooh, wings...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No cloven hooves? Interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maynar wrote:
No cloven hooves? Interesting.


Well, it's in the beginning. He hasn't had time to be conflated with pagan fertility gods yet by those trying to demonize them.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So-o, you're saying he developed said hooves after being conflated with pagan fertility gods? Not fully formed out of the box?

Please tell me more of your theory. I suspect he had hooves from the moment God cast him out of heaven. Not that I'm big on religiosity, but this seems a quirky little idea. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet he wears prosthetics so his feet look normal.

Yeah, that's it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but...

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1327/why-is-satan-often-shown-as-having-goatlike-features
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is truly Eden, is that meant to be.. Eve?

Where's the snake?

Come to that... where's the innocent nudity?
[God: Who told you thou wast naked?]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one can say Mr. Ishida doesn't have technical mastery. By all rights the colours in this strip should be kitsch and jarring, but they are the complete opposite. I particularly like how the colour red threads through the panels, telling a story in its own right through pleasing symmetries and reversals.

First red is contained in the orderly strawberries within Persephone's (or whoever's) basket. Then she lifts up a single, red strawberry. Next, contrasting with the neat strawberry, an apple core thwacks her in side of the head. The following panel is the antithesis of the first; her strawberries are scattered over the ground. Now the Devil is shown holding a perfect red fruit, paralleling her earlier inspection of the single strawberry. (Looks like he was musing on it, and she interrupted him.) A red silhouette, he leaps down from the tree, and offers her the fruit. She points to the 'Forbidden' sign. The red apple apparently morphs into a red burst of energy, with which the Devil destroys the sign. Then night/twilight suddenly descends, and red leaves the progression. Everything turns blue. In the absence of any further allusion to the apples of knowledge, she learns who he is. Beautiful ending panel.

The yellow is also pleasant; makes a little joke of sorts. We see a few yellow stars above her thwocked head, then suddenly, above the Devil, a great abundance of gold.

Do the leaves of apple-trees turn golden-brown in Autumn? I've no idea.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maynar wrote:
I bet he wears prosthetics so his feet look normal.

Yeah, that's it.


Not entirely ridiculous! After all, you revive Mephistopheles' explanation in Faust.

THE WITCH.
My Lord, forgive me, if I werenít genteel!
I missed the signs; I see no cloven heel,
And where, pray, be your jet-black raven-pair?

MEPHISTOPHELES.
[snip]
Touching the foot, with which I canít dispense,
My social circle might well take offence;
And so, like many fashionable lads,
I falsify my calves by using pads.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SA_Penguin wrote:
If this is truly Eden, is that meant to be.. Eve?

Where's the snake?

Come to that... where's the innocent nudity?
[God: Who told you thou wast naked?]


I don't think that's Eve. If it were...that would make Lil' E...something. The child of a union between Eve and the Devil. Then again, all of the supernatural characters seem to live lives that defy normal time.

A little googling and..there is a something called the serpent seed.
http://ministrymaker.com/did-eve-have-sexual-relations-with-satan/

Anyway, it would make Lil' E Cain which is probably not what was intended.

And I still don't think that's Eve.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's Lilith guys.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelLilly wrote:
She's Lilith guys.


Yep. I think Lilith was Adam's first wife but 'she refused to lay under him' or something similar...and apparently left him for Big D...which kinda makes sense...I mean no matter how hot Adam was, I sincerely doubt he could beat that.
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