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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:57 am    Post subject: Jan. 30: Three months after Reply with quote



This might not end well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your heart might thaw if you took it out of your icebox.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible character development? Will Slick continue down this road, or slip back into bad habits? like he has every other time
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Night Spade wrote:
Your heart might thaw if you took it out of your icebox.


I don't think it was an icebox... I'm pretty sure it was just a safe...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it.


I would imagine that the main change from him quitting porn would just be that his imagination got better.
It might also make him go out and seek something more, but generally that ends badly with Slick, which is why he got the lockbox in the first place.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correlation does not equal causation.

If Slick's heart is thawing out after three months with no watching porn (and other things that influenced his personality and attitude regarding life and other people), it need not necessarily imply that the lack of watching porn was what directly led to it.

It could've just been, you know, developing a more open mind, starting to think about other people's problems, even if often (at first) for the wrong reasons.

Keep going, Slick.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever Tat's trying to say here, it's probably something stupid
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I agree with Hekateras, the fact that Tat put the heart defrosting in the same line as not watching porn kinda irks me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TerseRiddle wrote:
Night Spade wrote:
Your heart might thaw if you took it out of your icebox.


I don't think it was an icebox... I'm pretty sure it was just a safe...


Safe or icebox, his heart needs to get out of that box for any chance for it to thaw out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for Slick, I think. I don't know what his end goal is. Hell, I can't even imagine how much of a different person he'll be. Thankfully (or not), he's been shunted out of the spotlight, so he won't cause that much of a shake-up in the Sinfest world.
Worst that could happen: Slick and Sleaze finally split, and everyone will have a proper person to hate.
I wonder how Squigley will handle the new direction his best friend's taking? As much as I want conflict to appear again in this comic, I like the little hedonist. Even though he's changed so much. Will there be friction between them or co-operation? Only Tat knows. Maybe this story will go in a completely new direction!

Or maybe Sleaze will interfere again and months of work will go down the drain. Ah well. Resolution is another thing I haven't seen in a while.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, he's been doing a lot of things to improve himself lately, porn watching being one of the things, its just his heart wasn't into it so nothing really has changed? That's what I got out of it. I wonder how things will fair once he thaws that heart out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The heart IS thawing. He's not out of the woods just yet, still some room (read: a LOT of room) for improvement, but if he keeps at this process he just might be ready to try romance (NOT lust) again. If he's learned anything, and listens to what pretty much every woman he knows in the comic are telling him, he just might have a fair shake at real happiness.

If not, and Kcils takes over, or convinces him to be a massive prick again, I'm betting the heart'll go right back in the safe. Even fewer women than before will be willing to put up with his very special brand of shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yinello wrote:
While I agree with Hekateras, the fact that Tat put the heart defrosting in the same line as not watching porn kinda irks me.


I agree, something about it just feels odd. I suspect most children in the US grow up surrounded by the message that sexuality is dirty, and that includes porn, it includes masturbation, it includes any sort of pleasure that's relating to something sexual. People used to think it caused blindness. When sexual pleasure became something natural that men and women celebrated in themselves, I thought that was progress.

Sinfest seems to use porn/masturbation as metaphors for oppressing/objectifying women. But maybe it's not perfect as a metaphor. Women watch porn and masturbate too. Every strip like today's is a small ping of criticism, "you shouldn't do that", "you're being immoral". And even though the intended message is very different, it comes out sounding very similar to something we've heard before.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, woah, woah. Woah. Wait a sec.


The comic isn't saying that Slick stopped masturbating for three months, just that he stopped watching porn.

I don't think it's that far of a stretch to say that less time exposed to a hopelessly unrealistic model of sex, and how women present themselves during the act -- along with more time interacting with women that aren't performing in front of a camera with the intent of accentuating sex appeal (interactions he's been trying to have, albeit with limited success and occasionally with a hint of ulterior motive) -- just might change the way he views women AND interacts with them.

I mean, think about why he chucked his heart in there in the first place. He was professing his 'love' (which looked suspiciously exactly like horndog lust) in his typical Slick-being-an-asshat manner and was getting (rightfully) shut the fuck down. He got dejected because his advances never worked and it just looked like he was going to stop trying to pursue women in real life. Cue more porn, for a while. It's only now that he's stopped that he just might be rethinking the methods he used to use. (A comic confirming/denying this would be helpful).

If he realizes that the main reasons he was getting nowhere were his methods, which were at least partially built around a porn-informed, unrealistic expectation of women's behavior, it makes sense that he might be more willing to put himself out there again (heart thawing), because he just might have a new approach: NOT being a lust-filled jackass, and starting to become a decent person.

So...yeah. It might be a bit of a stretch, but I don't think it's that far out there.


And his heart isn't totally thawed yet - which is good, because he definitely has a ways to go before he's in the black on the being-a-decent-person meter (rather than just acting decent, which is closer to what he's been doing the past few months).


Sorry for the wall, hope it was coherent.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with CalmBlueSea about, well, pretty much everything. I was thinking most of that stuff but couldn't be arsed to try to put it down coherently, so thank you for doing so and letting me just post a comment that is the equivalent of "yeah, same".
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