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NORMAL SIZED BARBIE IS HAPPENING
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Ennis



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That reminds me of a study.

Summation:
The study found that being exposed to images of Barbie lowered young girls self-esteem and decreased their satisfaction with their body size (i.e. they wanted to be thinner). This detrimental effect was more pronounced in the older children (6.5 to 7.5 year olds) than in the younger group (5.5 to 6.5). Exposure to an average size doll and neutral stimulus had no such effect. However, they found something interesting in that exposure to Barbie to girls over the age of 7 did not change their self-esteem or dissatisfaction with body size but the average size doll *did*. The average-sized doll actually increased their desire to be thin. The researchers hypothesized that this was because they had already internalised the thin ideal, and so the full-bodied doll might represent to them a possible (undesired) future.

It's a very interesting read and it does go on to talk about how due to globalisation and whatnot, cultures that formally had a history of celebrating full-figured women are beginning to idolise the thin ideal now too.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is interesting.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just remember in my youth a lot of the playing was with baby dolls, which look like babies. pretty much average normal babies, as i recall. except for the ones that barely looked human, like raggetty anne and cabbage patch dolls. i mean, little girls used to play with bundles of rags tied up in a vaguely human form. little kids will play with anything, so the idea that they won't play with something that looks "average" is just nuts.

and when it is clear that exposing them to an overtly sexualized doll at an early age screws them up, then you have to ask why you _wouldn't_ want them playing with something else.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to know more about the dolls construction... I mean you see her with bent knees and things but there aren't any visible joints. Are her legs and arms made of a different material with an internal skeleton? I know some barbies can bend their knees a teeny bit, but not to the extent this doll is pictured.

It's just odd because her wrists and ankles have obvious joints, which is not something I see on most barbies (unless they've changed, which is possible, I can't say I've paid them much attention in recent years.)

Idk, I have questions. I almost put down the $25 just to get one and find out but funds are tight so I guess I'll just watch from afar.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my old 12" G.I. Joe figures had bendable knees and elbows with no visible joints. They were internal with a rubber skin forming most of the limb.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's what i was thinking - i figured maybe that worked if you had joints that bend in just one direction, but ones were you wanted more mobility (like rotation), then you have to leave the joint open.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, WOC: did you mean G.I. Joe with Kung-Fu Action Grip!?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moor wrote:
Wait, WOC: did you mean G.I. Joe with Kung-Fu Action Grip!?

Not quite. Compared to that old series, these guys were the New Kids On the Block.

Hah, you won't get that joke unless you go here and scroll down to the G.I. JOE Hall of Fame dolls from the early 90s! I am so clever and obscure!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arg. Unfortunately, that ad collection only goes up to the 80s, so I can't haunt you with commercials from your childhood. Phoo-y... HOLY MACKEREL THEY HAVE A TELEGRAPH COMMERCIAL.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: I disapprove Reply with quote

Heretical Rants wrote:
Realistic dolls are always creepy to me, unless they're high-art-sculpture-tier, which these aren't. And I have absolutely no idea why you'd want to mimic the Barbie brand, of all Celestia-forsaken things.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's not what I meant
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was going to give my daughter anything to play with, it would be books upon books.

Honestly, a child shouldn't idolize a doll in the first place.



The moment the child has something to compare herself to is the moment she starts questioning how she needs to appear.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thy Brilliance wrote:
If I was going to give my daughter anything to play with, it would be books upon books.

Honestly, a child shouldn't idolize a doll in the first place.



The moment the child has something to compare herself to is the moment she starts questioning how she needs to appear.

That isn't how kids play with dolls and modeling doesn't necessarily involve idolizing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thy Brilliance wrote:
If I was going to give my daughter anything to play with, it would be books upon books.


that's what I had when I was a kid

plus, like, batteries to take apart and stuff

I stopped just short of blowing up the attic




ooo, and magnets. Magnets are awesome. And rope! And trees!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a paint scraper, and I scraped the paint off my door.


(I also had books and toys.)
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