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Ronald



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, here's a random, simply entertaining strip with no bearing on anything whatsoever.


http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2005-10-10

Really, for me it's all about the third panel and adorable Baby 'Nique.

Goo Goo Ga Ga Neeeeee

So, which would be the better catchphrase/battle cry, that or Shoooooz?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, real life people assume that minorities are dangerous with magical powers, and they still set up discriminatory laws and such. (I mean, you'd think that since queer people control the weather, we should be given sacrifices in order to convince us to use our powers only for good.)

There might be mixed-race relations, but are half-devil children allowed to be born and continue existing? If people can tell what they are by looking at them, and if there are rules against them, there'd be no hiding them.

Yes, Ennis, one day you will look older. But I've been assured that trans people tend to look much younger than they are - so you'll possibly never really look your age. Getting hormones should also help.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stripeypants wrote:
Yes, Ennis, one day you will look older. But I've been assured that trans people tend to look much younger than they are - so you'll possibly never really look your age. Getting hormones should also help.

I actually don't mind looking younger, it's just the kind of awkward situations it creates that I dislike. Although they are pretty funny in retrospect. Like when someone messaged me on ebay assuming that the person in the picture (me) was my son, and said their son looked like him. I was sort of flattered, but also wondering why some random ebay person had messaged me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stripeypants wrote:
There might be mixed-race relations, but are half-devil children allowed to be born and continue existing?


Well, yes, I would have to think that half-Devils are allowed to be born and to live, because the alternative would be forcing women (whether mortal or Devil) to have abortions against their will or, failing that, infant genocide against "halflings."

With due respect...Dude, this isn't a series of dystopian novels, it's a comic strip. Wink

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think Tat should do more with the fact that his main setting is a city with a minority population of Devil People* -- where there are Devil Men and Devil Women, there are bound to be Devil Children (I hardly think that Devils are less likely to have sex than mortals are) and thus Devil Families who must live somewhere, so there must be at least one Devil Neighborhood in Sinfest City -- but I wouldn't expect him to take things quite that seriously.

While Tat is handling serious issues more and more, Sinfest is ultimately a wacky comic strip depicting a world where you might see Jesus and Buddha chilling under a tree. Where the embodiments of patriotism and freedom (Sam and Liberty) live down the street. Where a talking pig and a round-headed whatzit are considered just another pair of citizens (Squig has achieved a certain measure of fame as "the Michael Bolton" guy. The fact that he's a frickin' talking pig apparently excites no attention at all.). Where people with no jobs and no visible means of support live in nicely furnished homes. Where...well, I'm sure I've made my point by now. Wink The mere fact that people in the strip can go to a hill somewhere and talk to God and have God talk back and even perform puppet shows for them would, if taken too seriously, irreversibly alter society as we know it.

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*I used to harbor hopes that "Mint" from

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2012-04-01
(such detail in her eyes in panel eight)

would become a recurring character, maybe even sort of a rival to 'Nique for Slick's attention (although 'Nique doesn't want Slick to be her boyfriend, she does want him to be her friend and would probably get just a bit jealous of any girlfriend (or any remotely similar acquaintance) he might have), that the rather oblivious Slick would, by hanging out with or dating Mint, see examples of anti-Devil discrimination and move into serious moral outrage mode. I'd never want it to be a major part of the strip, certainly not as pervasive as the whole Patriarchy/Sisterhood deal currently is, just something that's, you know, there every now and then, like any number of other sub-themes, in between the first panel and the punchline. Just the fact that Mint is a Devil Girl who shows no sign of actually working for The Devil immediately rendered her interesting (well, to me, anyway). And who's her fellow Devil Girl that she was with three strips earlier? And so on.

Obviously, that never came to pass, and if Mint were to return, I'd want her to first thing tell us what the heck is the deal with the mirror world (Tsefnis Ytic?) and why she made Slick susceptible to it; I mean, I'm presuming that her BZOMF is responsible for that, because otherwise we have no explanation at all. I suspect that it figures into the big giant scenario that I speculated about earlier regarding Tange and Li'l E and 'Nique and the Sisterhood -- that, in keeping with the Matrix metaphor, Mint has set Slick up as some sort of proto-Neo -- but I can't really back any of that up.

Of course, I used to also harbor hopes that we'd sooner or later see Baby Blue's bevy of perfect-bodied nubile nymphs who never age or complain, but I've pretty much given up on at that one, too. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure the whole BZOMF thing and the introduction of Sleaze was more of a way to show the duality of Slick's character. Sleaze seems like he is supposed to represent Slick's underlying subconcious motivations and desires as a type of Id personification. As for the segregated Sinfest City, anti-devilperson discrimination only seems to ever arise when the comic is trying to use it to get across a "DISCRIMINATION IS BAD" message and then disappears completely afterward.

As far as how the laws of society work in Sinfest I don't try to take it entirely too seriously or look for a consistent system. It's a funnies-style comic laden with one-off social metaphors drawn by an aging introvert. I don't exactly expect it to be an accurate model of a functioning society. It's like Bloom County with far less rules and more metaphors.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, whyever she did it, the point is that she did it, and she must have had a reason for doing so.


http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2012-03-30

Of course, if Slick hadn't posted that idiotic small print (while, apparently, not expecting anyone to actually read it; what, was he required to post that in order to get the booth? although, depending on where he got the booth, I could actually believe that), they'd have simply shared a hug and that would've been that. As it is, they had that bizarre boner/BOMF duel -- which Slick initiated -- and never even hugged. Slick takes the concept of undermining oneself to unheard of levels.

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On another note, not a favorite strip per se, but when I posted strips of the ___ Needs ___ running gag to illustrate how many female (confirmed or potential) aliens we never saw leave and who thus might still be on Earth (and thus potential Sisterhood recruits) some time ago, I somehow overlooked this one.


http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2013-11-14

Wow, they sent a whole three ships. No other "Needs" aliens have ever done that. Shoujotron must have attached high priority to that mission.

Since we never saw them leave, there could be at least three Shoujotronians still on Earth, any of whom could be female (or could be not female; wearing lace doesn't prove anything).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it wasn't Yandere-Tron.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off-topic, to the extent that there was a topic, here's another strip that I found memorable.


http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2014-03-04

IMHO, if Tess had told Li'l Sis that she looked "terrifying" without actually looking at her, it would have established a pre-existing dynamic between the two even better than the strip as it is does. Smile While these characters are mostly ciphers to us, they've worked together for, well, years, I suppose, and know each other's quirks well.

Just curious, does anyone perceive any common theme in the known Sisterhood names? Xanthe, Clio, Tess...no pattern that I can see (unlike Devil Girls, all of whom (well, the ones whose names we know at all) are named after colors). Not that there necessarily has to be one, of course, I'm just wondering if it's there and I'm missing it. Thanks.

Just checked Wikipedia: Clio's last name, Mirembe, means "peace"; yeah, I suppose if you start swinging a chainsaw around, things'll turn peaceful in your vicinity pretty quickly. Wink Xanthe's last name is Justice. If we learn Tess's last name, maybe that would establish a pattern. Shrug.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The theme is names of greek origins.

Xanthe is a greek name of an amazon and a water nymph, Clio is the name of one of the muses, and Tess is short for Theresa which is of greek origins but you theorized once that it could also be short for Tecmessa, which is also the name of an amazon.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, thanks.

Per this strip: http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2012-01-29

aside from The Familiar Five, the Sisterhood has at least thirteen more members (plus that one adult woman who reported to Xanthe about Slick). I doubt that we'll ever see any of them again, much less learn their names, but still, contemplating what their names might be is a harmless diversion.

Per Wikipedia (so, you know...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oceanids , both Xanthe and Clio are names of Oceanids, and the names "Telesto" and "Metis" could be shortened into "Tess" easily enough. Inconclusive, sure, but it's there.

Wikipedia lists ninety-four Oceanid names, and there were supposedly 3000 of them altogether. Some good old-fashioned nightmare fuel for the Sisterhood detractors around here. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald wrote:

Of course, I used to also harbor hopes that we'd sooner or later see Baby Blue's bevy of perfect-bodied nubile nymphs who never age or complain, but I've pretty much given up on at that one, too. Wink


dude. she never had a bevy of perfect-bodied nubile nymphs. she was totally pulling slick's chain. what you think is him in awe of said bevy is in fact him watching her walk away to where he _imagines_ the bevy is. the bevy peopled by his imagination. which is always better than reality.

witness the way you keep fixating on them. if you had ever actually seen them, they would have been just one more thing to catalog - instead of something you dream about. forever, apparently.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So who's Monique watching?


http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2010-10-22

If it's just Blue down there, then what's Monique tipping her for, a particularly good example of masturbation?

And if it's just Blue down there, why does Slick use the plural, lesbians?

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2010-10-21

He wouldn't say that unless there were at least two people down there: Blue and...?

The evidence (such as it is) indicates that there are indeed Nymphs down there with Blue. If you for whatever reason don't care for that idea, well, that's okay. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, fuchsia was still with blue then, and we know they put on displays.

any more than one could have been an illusion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
well, fuchsia was still with blue then, and we know they put on displays.

any more than one could have been an illusion.


But that's just it. Everything outside of The Reality Zone is an illusion. That's why it's The Reality Zone. If it and it alone is reality, then by definition everything else, the entire Sinfestiverse except for those few square yards, must be illusion. Even The Devil. Even God. Even Tat himself.

"When your only reality is an illusion, then illusion is a reality." The Clown, "Thaw," Star Trek: Voyager

Anyway, it's not as if Tat's ever going to return to the point again (even though I offered an idea that solves two loose ends at once: reveal that the women apparently being held prisoner in Porno-Man's dungeon (something else Tat's not likely to ever return to) are in fact Blue's Nymphs and she "loans them out" to Porno-Man every now and then), so it's a moot point. As I mentioned, I've given up on it. I can still contemplate the idea now and then, though. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for the why-not of it, a look at four non-Anonymous Sinfest Women extras (there may be more, but I'm not recalling them at the moment):

Candy

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2001-12-24

Amber

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2002-08-19

Ginger

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2003-01-06

Marla

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2005-01-06

Curiously, three out of four of them are named after inanimate objects. What are the odds, huh?
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