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June 11, 2014: Devil Tech Headquarters 13
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Ronald



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't referring to Slick's options while in the scenario but his options after escaping it.

As mentioned, Slick could tell the Sisterhood, an organization powerful enough for The Devil to consider it a threat, about the situation. They can conceivably do something about it, whereas he can't. That would be equivalent to reporting a crime to the proper authorities (I'm presuming that telling the police about it would be useless because I'm further presuming that The Devil "owns" the police in Sinfest City.).

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Ronald wrote:

I'm not sure that any other experience that a character has undergone "inside of a computer" qualifies as a dream sequence, though. And if there have been no others, there's no particular reason to think that there's been even one.


so you think when sam went through and saw all those women begging to be invaded, that was reality?


No, I thought that was a three-dimensional porn scenario inside cyberspace.

That's the situation under which Torture-Guy first appeared to begin with, when Squig went inside his computer to literally visit a porn site.

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2012-05-13

And that's what I'd have presumed the "Cult of Masculinity" strip to have been, too...except that we now know that Torture-Guy exists in Sinfest's real world. He's not just a porn character who exists only in cyberspace.

That means that any scenario involving him could conceivably be occurring in Sinfest's real world. It used to seem as if The Bomf District was only a cyberspace scenario, but it turned out to be "real," too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torture Guy could have an avatar in digital world just like Slick and whoever else do.
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Ronald



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ennis wrote:
Torture Guy could have an avatar in digital world just like Slick and whoever else do.


But that's just it. Slick doesn't have an avatar in digital world / cyberspace (he has an evil twin in the mirror world, but that's not the same thing). Slick himself visits cyberspace. He enters his computer screen in Sinfest's real world and emerges in cyberspace. Same with Squig, Sam, Clio, and any other "real world" character who's entered cyberspace. When they're in there (cyberspace), they're not out here...uh, no, wait, I mean they're not in the other there (Sinfest-Prime or whatever one wants to call it).

At first the Bomf District was presented as a digital-only realm, but then we learned that it exists in Sinfest's real world (rather a not very well thought out move on Tat's part IMHO but hey, he's the creator). So are there two Bomf Districts or only one which, somehow, exists in both cyberspace and Sinfest-Prime?
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Ronald



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To explore matters further, in this strip:

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2013-04-14

We see Clio enter cyberspace (and arrive in the Bomf District, specifically, the part of it where the broadcast tower exists)...but we never see her leave it.

She moves directly from spraying Torture Guy with Kreeptonite to sawing down the broadcast tower. Clio then motors off and, yes, we can presume that she exited cyberspace off-panel...

...except that, as Panels 18-19 make clear, she just broke the digital connection between Sinfest-Prime and cyberspace. Now she can't escape digitally.

So she escapes physically. She motors back into Sinfest-Prime directly from her cyberspace arrival region in the Bomf District...which exists in Sinfest-Prime.

(and there's no point in asking where her bike or whatever she's hi-ho-silvering away on came from; for all we know, she's on rocket skates built into her shoes)

She entered the Bomf District digitally to reach her target immediately, which she couldn't do physically, then exited the Bomf District physically because she'd rendered herself unable to escape digitally.

Thus, the Bomf District (and Torture Guy within it) apparently exists in both cyberspace and Sinfest-Prime simultaneously. Which makes neither less nor more sense than any number of other things in Sinfest.

At least, that's how it looks to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thus, the Bomf District (and Torture Guy within it) apparently exists in both cyberspace and Sinfest-Prime simultaneously. Which makes neither less nor more sense than any number of other things in Sinfest.

Makes me think of back in the day when all these companies wanted representation in Second Life.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: June 11, 2014: Devil Tech Headquarters 13 Reply with quote

On a tangent (just can't think of anything to say about this thread's actual strip, sorry), contemplating one Clio strip reminded me of another.


http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2013-07-18

The fourth, fifth, and sixth matrix words lose a little impact when one remembers that Clio is a dangerous criminal. In the previously cited strip alone, she destroyed what I'm guessing is at least thousands of dollars worth of private property.

In fact, committing violent acts in pursuit of a political/ideological goal qualifies her as a terrorist. Hey, I didn't write the definition, folks. I like Clio as a character, but that doesn't change the nature of her actions.

The fact that the most outright terroristic member of the Sisterhood just happens to be IIRC the only African-American member of the Sisterhood that we've seen so far seems like kind of an "oops" moment on Tat's part.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: June 11, 2014: Devil Tech Headquarters 13 Reply with quote

Ronald wrote:
On a tangent (just can't think of anything to say about this thread's actual strip, sorry), contemplating one Clio strip reminded me of another.


http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2013-07-18

The fourth, fifth, and sixth matrix words lose a little impact when one remembers that Clio is a dangerous criminal. In the previously cited strip alone, she destroyed what I'm guessing is at least thousands of dollars worth of private property.

In fact, committing violent acts in pursuit of a political/ideological goal qualifies her as a terrorist. Hey, I didn't write the definition, folks. I like Clio as a character, but that doesn't change the nature of her actions.

The fact that the most outright terroristic member of the Sisterhood just happens to be IIRC the only African-American member of the Sisterhood that we've seen so far seems like kind of an "oops" moment on Tat's part.

I think the point is meant to be that she's shopping, and while doing that innocuous act still gets all these labels slapped on her when a white person would not. Reminds me of Men In Black III when Agent J is pulled over back in the 60s or 70s by some racist white cops who assume a "negro" couldn't have such a nice car and must have stolen it. And while in that situation he had (because he was time travelling from the future to save the world and didn't have a car) obviously the point is meant to be that those cops wouldn't have had the same suspicions about a white guy, even if they were "right" about Agent J.

Maybe Clio is a criminal by the definitions of the society she lives in, but that doesn't really mean anything when the legal system and basic societal foundations are corrupt. I don't see her as the most "terroristic" member but rather the most active one, walking the walk to try to fight back against the Patriarchy. Has she ever hurt anyone unprovoked, just to make a point about an "ideology"? Not that I recall.
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