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July 24, 2014: Vainglorious
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:04 am    Post subject: July 24, 2014: Vainglorious Reply with quote



Whoops. That graffiti really did mean something.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That actually sounds pretty damn cool.

WHAT A TWEEST.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

graffiti foreshadowing and varied camera angles don't justify sudden exposition from an as-of-yet unknown talking head


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I guess Vainglorious isn't D-man after all... I'm kinda interested in this, actually. I mean, yeah, it's totally coming out of no where without ever had any sort of build up... and this random dude we have never even seen before, showing up outta no where just to introduce this plot-thread is kinda stupid... but it does sound kinda neat...

I'm ready for the Vainglorious theories. I'm actively anticipating them, even.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell-born implies that other devil people besides Lily are born that way instead of bomfed. As for who Vainglorious is, I can't think of a pre-existing character that fits the bill of being a devil-person who can bomf and challenge Satan. It certainly doesn't sound like a Paradise Lost or Divine Comedy reference so even my literary education's got nuthin' on this one.

Edit: Although, with a name like Vainglorious they had better be able to sing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I mean... I'm almost kind of tempted to say it could be the minty flavored creator of Sleaze that Ronald frequently mentions. After all, Tat did bring the Sisterhood and Amber back (for like, two strips, in Amber's case) from seemingly no-where... and the concept of female robots populating Sinfest City disappeared for a few years before fembots showed up due to Milton's intervention... It's not like it is totally inconceivable that Tat might have decided to bring her back in this really dramatic but totally out of no where manner.

It's not Sleaze or Tange, as neither of them are "hell-born" and it's not Li'l E as he was never interested in challenging D-man's rule and definitely isn't now... It could be one of the minor devil people we don't see that much or know any background info on (like Sapphire or Legion) but honestly... Tat doesn't really seem really all that interested in, or willing to take risks in departing from specific roles for most characters, or even further fleshing out most minor ones...

So who better than a minor BG character that only two people, give or take, care about? Especially one who seemed to have been completely independent from D-man's influence?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what
woah
suddenly new plot thing
unable to process
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HA!



Ennis from a past thread wrote:
How is no one talking about the possible foreshadowing in that graffiti?!

THE BOMF MASTER
VAINGLORIOUS
IS COMING
FOR THE THRONE

And a picture of a hand with fire coming out of it.

Who made this graffiti? Who is the Bomf Master? Is it the devil's throne they're after, or is this somehow done by Dman and is in reference to God's throne?

I really hope this is legitimate foreshadowing and not a throwaway gag.


I just noticed that the hand actually looks like a glove. Do we know any characters who wear gloves like that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was one nameless character in the bg of... uh, one of the earlier appearances of The Hellhole... HOLD ON...



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Vainglorious" does sound like a DJ name O_o
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, did Big D take this guy with him on that trip to the 1% Summit, or is this a flashback, or what?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he keeps this guy at places he goes away to. Wouldn't want to risk people who might betray him getting top secret intel.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Istancow wrote:
what
woah
suddenly new plot thing
unable to process


I second this. I was like: Buuuuuuuh? in the most uncharming cow way.

Also I can't help feel this is a little bit of a Sailor Moon parody (with Queen Beryl and all).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunn..
DUNNN....
DUUUUUNNNN!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've really gotten away from the days when The Devil operated out of a little booth all by himself, haven't we?

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We've seen plenty of unnamed Devils, female and male. Heck, I don't even think Milton's assistant has been named yet. Not that I think he's a likely candidate, that's just an example.

However, notice that Sauron the Gray or whatever we're going to call him doesn't say this leader is named Vainglorious but that the leader is called Vainglorious. That means the leader might be a named character. And what character is (or used to be) most glorious in his vanity, what character's efforts to be glorious are mostly in vain?

I could've sworn "vain glory" was the name of a kind of flower but Wikipedia doesn't back me up on that. Shrug.

Are we to infer that "Devilkind" and "Hellborn" don't mean the same thing? Maybe a "Hellborn" is like that big ram-horned creature that Tange fights in the apocalypse wii game or whatever it is?

There was that one Devil Girl who had only one large horn instead of two small ones ("Citrine")

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2012-01-08

but even I think she's too obscure a character to be brought back in any major role. Still, Tat drew her like that, different from the rest, for some reason. It'd be nice if we saw her hanging around with Sapphire now and then, although, really, IMHO Abby's fellow recruit "Burgundy" should get some attention first.

Then again, maybe "Hellborn" is what Porno-Man is. I don't think we've been given the slightest clue on that yet.

In the flashback that showed Li'l E when he was Even Li'ler E http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2011-09-25 the mean kids taunted him him as "Devil Kid" as if it was, I dunno, a pre-existing expression. That implies there were earlier Devil children and thus that some Devil People are born, not BOMFed.
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