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squiggy_pig



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Um... a little help?.. Reply with quote

I recently contracted a nasty virus from this forum... this dirty, dirty forum. Anyone else get infected?

There was a link to a video that required a codec to be viewed, but the "codec" was actually a virus. Sad

Anyway, it's really messing with my system.

If anyone else knows what this is all about I'd greatly appreciate the help!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahah! Was it one of the porn spams? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was a link to a video that required a codec to be viewed, but the "codec" was actually a virus.
Why are you downloading mysterious crap to your computer? You have no one to blame but yourself.

How do you know that the "codec" is to blame, anyway? Don't you run anti-virus software? What do you think the people on this message board are going to do to be able to help you?

Get your phone book. Look up computer repair. Call one of the companies to help you. I am sure they will be able to solve your problem for a minimal cost.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahahaha - i would really like to see an answer to that question.
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squiggy_pig



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah... maybe... Wink I didn't know what it was at first though, it was just a link.

I was really dumb to click it. I even assumed it was a virus! Confused

I don't even know what was up with that, going on auto-pilot or something I guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silly boy. Very Happy

I recommend AVG anti-virus, Spybot and Spyware blaster. Download those (if you can) and run them. Then come back.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, thanks! Smile

I'll give it a shot...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Online virus scanners (take a few hours to scan thoroughly)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan.htm
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

Once these have finished, if your problem has been removed or if they tell you how to remove the problem and you have done so, download the following:
Ad-Aware SE (scans and deletes ad-ware)
Spybot Search and Destroy (scans and deletes spyware, + prevention)
Javacool's SpywareBlaster (prevention [adds bad sites to a blocked list])
A-Squared Free Edition (anti-malware scanner against worms, trojans, adware, spyware, etc.)
I recommend having ALL of the above. Then, you need a dedicated firewall and an antivirus program that stay running in the background to block sneaky programs that try to install themselves without your notice, scan your E-mail attachments, restrict internet access to certain programs, etc.

Free Antivirus programs:
Avast!
AVG Antivirus
Antivir

Some free AV programs are almost as good as the ones you buy, some may be better. Here's one article testing three free AV programs, still good even though the article just passed its first birthday. If you feel like shelling out the money, you can choose to buy a system like Norton, McAfee, or others (Panda and TrendMicro both have for-pay AV programs with more comprehensive protection you can download or buy in a store). Remember not to install and run any two AV programs at the same time. It's safer to choose one and stick with that.

Free Firewall programs:
ZoneAlarm
Kerio personal firewall, now owned by Sunbelt.
I know there were some others recommended before but I can't remember them.
Like the AV programs, most companies that put out free firewalls also have for-pay versions available from their sites or through stores.
If you have Windows XP updated through SP2, it has a built-in firewall that you can enable from the Control Panel. It's better than nothing, but it's not as good as any of the free programs above. Also, when you've finished downloading and installing the stuff from above, remember to keep them updated at least once a week and run a scan with each one also at least once a week, preferrably right after updating them. You can stagger them over different days so that one day you scan with Ad-Aware, another you scan with A-Squared, etc. because they often take a long time to do a thorough job. Spybot usually finishes up in fifteen minutes or less. Also, some antivirus programs like AVG can be set to scan automatically at certain times of day, such as when you're sleeping.

Extras to help keep you safe:
GoogleToolbar blocks a lot of pop-ups, plus lets you do a google search whenever you have your browser open. Not bad! Google also has a Googlepack for download that includes a lot of goodies like Ad-Aware, Firefox, Norton Antivirus 2005 Special Edition, and the GoogleToolbar.
Firefox browser: touted as more secure than Internet Explorer because it isn't targetted so heavily by hackers and whatnot, has a large development community from being open source, lack of ActiveX, etc. Has lots of available plug-ins to increase functionality. Also tabbed browsing is the only way to browse.
Avant Browser: (a 3rd party shell for Internet Explorer) has extra features like tabbed browsing, pop-up blocker, ad-blocker, script blocker, and Flash blockers plus more comprehensive tools that can make your browsing experience safer and more pleasant than with regular IE, and is a good way to ween yourself off of that.
Bazooka Spyware Scanner: scans your computer, tells you if you have any spyware, trojans, worms, etc. Unfortunately it won't remove them automatically, but it will tell you how to remove them yourself.

And never, ever, EVER click on any links from spammers or pluggers. You can recognize their posts because they A) have only one or two posts on their account, B) are advertising something, C) toss out mountains and mountains of links, D) Misspell almsot everything, E)Usually nobody replies to them. Tat usually kills of their threads after a day or two, bless 'im.

I was about to set up a thread were everybody could recommend the security software they use so that I could try out alternatives to the stuff I've got, this seems like as good a place as any. So, anybody else, recommend something!

[Edit] Found these recommendations on another forum.

SpywareGuard from the makers of SpywareBlaster. Runs alongside antivirus programs.
Webroot Spysweeper Free online spyware scan
ClamWin open-source Antivirus program, supposedly runs alongside other AV programs without crashing.
iSafer Winsock Firewall.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shiiiit.

That's some major weird shit, duuude...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheels, you are some kind of sexy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup I know the one. It was one of those spam bot posts for porn. My spyware caught it, and I dissected it for giggles on a spare system I have - it was a real nasty! It installs 3 pairs of services that startup annoying popup adds (your system isn't safe!), and you can't just process terminate one of the services - if you do, the other side of the pair starts it back up again. The only way to get rid of it is to find the names of the processes (and I'm sorry it was two weeks ago and I destroyed all my notes) and crawl through the registry to remove all references to them and their registry keys.

My heart goes out to you dude, that one is a NASTY. And the 10 second porn reel just wasn't worth the two hours of registry hacking necessary to kill it.

It was a funny thread too, because the name of the poster (which I forget) was a great porn name, and there were a couple replies to the post before it was deleted.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, me again...

Thanks Wheels, for the suggestions. I've tried pandasoft and trendMicro... trendMicro didn't find all the viruses. Pandasoft seemed to catch everything, but it wouldn't clean anything it deemed to be "malware"... I'd need to pay for that privilege. Mad

I tried a couple other programs on your list, but most of them you have to pay for... unfortunately it'd wait until it scanned my whole system before telling me I had to pay to clean up all the viruses it found! Evil or Very Mad Grrr...

So yeah, I'm still trying. Hopefully I find something that works.

Thanks for your condolences timmccloud. You're definitely right... it's the nastiest one I've ever seen! I'm not sure on how to edit a registry, but I guess that'd be something I could try if I'm unable to find an anti-virus that'll work for me. How would I go about doing that?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

squiggy_pig wrote:
Thanks Wheels, for the suggestions. I've tried pandasoft and trendMicro... trendMicro didn't find all the viruses.

That's the way it goes sometimes. Especially with these free things it's difficult to make sure they're up to date from a developer standpoint. In fact, pretty much ALL antivirus, antispyware, and other security measures are ALWAYS out of date because these threats are evolving too quickly and the makers are constantly working around any security program on the market, especially the larger ones.

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Pandasoft seemed to catch everything, but it wouldn't clean anything it deemed to be "malware"... I'd need to pay for that privilege. Mad

Hmmm. I thought Panda had a page that told you how to manually remove a threat. I know Symantec used to have manual removal instructions for threats that Norton found, and they also have a free online scanner. I don't know how their scanner works, whether it just tells you you're at risk or if it identifies stuff that's on your system.

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I tried a couple other programs on your list, but most of them you have to pay for...

As far as I knew all of the ones I linked to are completely free. I'm using most of them myself right now. Ad-Aware, A-Squared, AVG, AVAST!, Antivir, Spybot, SpywareBlaster, SpywareGuard, ZoneAlarm, iSafer, ClamWin, just double-checked and they're still free.
Kerio is apparently 20 bucks now but it looks like that's the only one that's charging.
So go get yourself 1 antivirus program, 1 firewall, then Ad-Aware, Spybot, SpywareGuard, SpywareBlaster, and A-Squared. If you want you can pick out a new browser and maybe add ClamWin antivirus.


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I'm not sure on how to edit a registry, but I guess that'd be something I could try if I'm unable to find an anti-virus that'll work for me. How would I go about doing that?

If you don't know what you're doing, editing a registry is not for you. If you have any tech-savvy friends you feel comfortable asking for help, get them to do it. I'd recommend writing down the registry values that were changed. Bazooka will tell you what was changed, in some cases so will Ad-Aware and Spybot, and some of the online antivirus scanners. Also, here's a site that can help you identify bad processes from Task Manager if they're not masked. Type in the name of the process and do a search, it'll tell you if the process is safe or a malware. Once again, you should probably get somebody who knows what they're doing to help you with this.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, editing the registry doesn't seem to be an option anyway... the virus won't let me access regedit... it won't let me access the Task Manager either! Sneaky thing...

So I guess an anti-virus is the only option...

I'll check out Panda again. At the very least I could identify the names of the viruses it finds and then look up a way to manually remove them.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you tried starting up in safe mode?

you may be able to avoid the evil processes loading and access regedit at that point.
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