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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: December 27, 2017: MMXVII 50 Reply with quote



Yeah stabbing t̶o̶ a giant robot's eye with a tiny stick isn't going to break it.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: December 27, 2017: MMXVII 50 Reply with quote

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Yeah stabbing to a giant robot's eye with a tiny stick isn't going to break it.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my prediction on how this arc will end. There will be something that causes Pimp-bot to self-destruct (whether it's a malfunction or intentional, doesn't matter). Ms. 2017 is going to have to climb in and pilot it into the sky so no one is hurt in the resulting explosion. The fembots will remove the barcodes from the girls who really, really want a new job. The newly freed girls will then, at least temporarily, join the rebellion.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kagalei wrote:
Here's my prediction on how this arc will end. There will be something that causes Pimp-bot to self-destruct (whether it's a malfunction or intentional, doesn't matter). Ms. 2017 is going to have to climb in and pilot it into the sky so no one is hurt in the resulting explosion. The fembots will remove the barcodes from the girls who really, really want a new job. The newly freed girls will then, at least temporarily, join the rebellion.


There's a rebellion?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OlympianSoul wrote:
kagalei wrote:
Here's my prediction on how this arc will end. There will be something that causes Pimp-bot to self-destruct (whether it's a malfunction or intentional, doesn't matter). Ms. 2017 is going to have to climb in and pilot it into the sky so no one is hurt in the resulting explosion. The fembots will remove the barcodes from the girls who really, really want a new job. The newly freed girls will then, at least temporarily, join the rebellion.


There's a rebellion?


The group of girls running around and doing their best to mess with D-man's operations? D-man's in charge and they're fighting against him, is that not a rebellion?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is it. MMXVII's final stand.

Damn it, she only just got here. ><
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kagalei wrote:
OlympianSoul wrote:
kagalei wrote:
Here's my prediction on how this arc will end. There will be something that causes Pimp-bot to self-destruct (whether it's a malfunction or intentional, doesn't matter). Ms. 2017 is going to have to climb in and pilot it into the sky so no one is hurt in the resulting explosion. The fembots will remove the barcodes from the girls who really, really want a new job. The newly freed girls will then, at least temporarily, join the rebellion.


There's a rebellion?


The group of girls running around and doing their best to mess with D-man's operations? D-man's in charge and they're fighting against him, is that not a rebellion?

Their best has mostly been handing out coffee, posting to creep's social media and cutting down unguarded stripper poles. They've no plan to to down the patriarchy, they just sort of whine about how bad it is. It's been 6 years now, wrap up the story and move on, Tat.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedro_Martini wrote:
kagalei wrote:
OlympianSoul wrote:
kagalei wrote:
Here's my prediction on how this arc will end. There will be something that causes Pimp-bot to self-destruct (whether it's a malfunction or intentional, doesn't matter). Ms. 2017 is going to have to climb in and pilot it into the sky so no one is hurt in the resulting explosion. The fembots will remove the barcodes from the girls who really, really want a new job. The newly freed girls will then, at least temporarily, join the rebellion.


There's a rebellion?


The group of girls running around and doing their best to mess with D-man's operations? D-man's in charge and they're fighting against him, is that not a rebellion?

Their best has mostly been handing out coffee, posting to creep's social media and cutting down unguarded stripper poles. They've no plan to to down the patriarchy, they just sort of whine about how bad it is. It's been 6 years now, wrap up the story and move on, Tat.


Too many Storys to end in such a short Time. And for one Story that ends, we get 2 new ones. At least it looks like it. And some repeat themself, like the Personification of the Year. But he has slowed down with the amount of Storys that we get. If thats good, you have to decide for yourself.
Well, a big Problem is, that the Patriachat, the Matrix, is not something what you can fight. At least not directly. Change the People and how the think about how they should tread each other and you win.


About 2017. Madam, you really should start to run. Or hope that the Assasinbots dont have a long reloading Time.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedro_Martini wrote:
Their best has mostly been handing out coffee, posting to creep's social media and cutting down unguarded stripper poles. They've no plan to to down the patriarchy, they just sort of whine about how bad it is. It's been 6 years now, wrap up the story and move on, Tat.


1. that isnt all they do
2. they do have a plan, but unfortunately, true to real life, their plan isnt instantaneous because theres no effective way of instantly making society better???
3. and what the fuck do you think theyre supposed to do???

like first of all, how quickly do you THINK societal change occurs? how do you THINK changes like these happen? how quickly do you think issues like these get taken care of?? it doesnt happen overnight, and barely anything gets done in a decade because when it comes to controversial issues that not everyone can agree on, its hard to be organized and get things done quickly and its not any single persons fault or any single groups fault. i don't think tat is handling these characters the best, i don't care for how he's handling theses issues or the messages involved, and ultimately the sisterhood and the fembots tend to be a little flat due to tat's extensive roster making it hard to round out and flesh them all out as characters, because when there are as many characters as there are that need to share the spotlight then there can't be equal focus on every single character and their development ... especially when tat uses them as mouthpieces for his believes, or to explore issues like these ... ect, ect. thats no ones fault but his own. but like of ALL the criticisms .... like of all the valid points to make, of all the complaints to have, thats really all you have?

instead of going on about how societal change occurs irl im just gonna list the shit that the sisterhood and the fembots get up to in-canon as apart of their attempts to try and fight oppression

the sisterhood
- gives out information and education about these issues for free
- in the form of books for those who enjoy reading and are interested (criminy, absinthe)
- advice for those who need it and might be willing to listen (slick, squig)
- save lives when needed or when they can (the dragon, squig)
- nonviolent takedowns of living threats (clio vs porno man)
- yes, cut down stripper poles ... to build playgrounds
- establish safe spaces for women and men (friendzone is specifically meant to be an enjoyable and safe space for both men and women, women-only space is for solidarity between stressed out women dealing with the patriarchy)
- yes, they out creeps for creepy behavior
- they also take down drones and try to prevent upskirt shots taken by milton using his drones
- free refreshments in the form of coffee and muffins to support women
- free resources (read as: CLOTHES) to anyone that needs it (all 4 of the recurring pleasure fembots)
- encourage and empower those they can (fuchsia)
- give medical assistance to those who need it when they can (the dragon, PX)

- clio specifically tackles racism and the sex industry, discussing the issues with both and actively combats them in various forms
- xanthe focuses on resources and encouragement
- tess and The Medic (no name given yet) focus on the ecosystem by recycling and reusing waste
- nana, who is the founder of the sisterhood, funds them and focuses on solidarity, and knits for any in need that cross her path (fembots, tange, li'l e)
- li'l sis/helmet is a children and doesnt contribute anything specifically, tends to be the "straw feminist" of the group because, she is a child
- miko, though not a member of the sisterhood, is in a similar position because she is a child who is only now starting to understand these complicated and long-existing issues
- nique is not apart of the sisterhood, is merely an artist, a beat poet and singer, SUPPORTED by the sisterhood ... but not an actual member of the sisterhood. mostly writes and performs about her experiences

the fembots (weapons f, PX)
- do pretty much more or less the same things but they focus on fembot rights and freeing each other, with some degree of success?
- the weaponized fembot trio and PX are the ones trying to fight oppression against their kind. the trio hanging with kate are just trying to survive

also why are you faulting any of them for venting about the fact that theyre frustrated with the fact that a) societal change is slow and b) some of what they do isnt allowed to permanently affect their setting because tat says so??? what are you doing right now. look. reread your post right now. what are you doing? you are ... venting about your frustrations with something, arent you. is that a problem? not at all. stick to valid criticisms, dude
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Magenta wrote:
Pedro_Martini wrote:
Their best has mostly been handing out coffee, posting to creep's social media and cutting down unguarded stripper poles. They've no plan to to down the patriarchy, they just sort of whine about how bad it is. It's been 6 years now, wrap up the story and move on, Tat.


1. that isnt all they do
2. they do have a plan, but unfortunately, true to real life, their plan isnt instantaneous because theres no effective way of instantly making society better???
3. and what the fuck do you think theyre supposed to do???

like first of all, how quickly do you THINK societal change occurs? how do you THINK changes like these happen? how quickly do you think issues like these get taken care of?? it doesnt happen overnight, and barely anything gets done in a decade because when it comes to controversial issues that not everyone can agree on, its hard to be organized and get things done quickly and its not any single persons fault or any single groups fault. i don't think tat is handling these characters the best, i don't care for how he's handling theses issues or the messages involved, and ultimately the sisterhood and the fembots tend to be a little flat due to tat's extensive roster making it hard to round out and flesh them all out as characters, because when there are as many characters as there are that need to share the spotlight then there can't be equal focus on every single character and their development ... especially when tat uses them as mouthpieces for his believes, or to explore issues like these ... ect, ect. thats no ones fault but his own. but like of ALL the criticisms .... like of all the valid points to make, of all the complaints to have, thats really all you have?

instead of going on about how societal change occurs irl im just gonna list the shit that the sisterhood and the fembots get up to in-canon as apart of their attempts to try and fight oppression

the sisterhood
- gives out information and education about these issues for free
- in the form of books for those who enjoy reading and are interested (criminy, absinthe)
- advice for those who need it and might be willing to listen (slick, squig)
- save lives when needed or when they can (the dragon, squig)
- nonviolent takedowns of living threats (clio vs porno man)
- yes, cut down stripper poles ... to build playgrounds
- establish safe spaces for women and men (friendzone is specifically meant to be an enjoyable and safe space for both men and women, women-only space is for solidarity between stressed out women dealing with the patriarchy)
- yes, they out creeps for creepy behavior
- they also take down drones and try to prevent upskirt shots taken by milton using his drones
- free refreshments in the form of coffee and muffins to support women
- free resources (read as: CLOTHES) to anyone that needs it (all 4 of the recurring pleasure fembots)
- encourage and empower those they can (fuchsia)
- give medical assistance to those who need it when they can (the dragon, PX)

- clio specifically tackles racism and the sex industry, discussing the issues with both and actively combats them in various forms
- xanthe focuses on resources and encouragement
- tess and The Medic (no name given yet) focus on the ecosystem by recycling and reusing waste
- nana, who is the founder of the sisterhood, funds them and focuses on solidarity, and knits for any in need that cross her path (fembots, tange, li'l e)
- li'l sis/helmet is a children and doesnt contribute anything specifically, tends to be the "straw feminist" of the group because, she is a child
- miko, though not a member of the sisterhood, is in a similar position because she is a child who is only now starting to understand these complicated and long-existing issues
- nique is not apart of the sisterhood, is merely an artist, a beat poet and singer, SUPPORTED by the sisterhood ... but not an actual member of the sisterhood. mostly writes and performs about her experiences

the fembots (weapons f, PX)
- do pretty much more or less the same things but they focus on fembot rights and freeing each other, with some degree of success?
- the weaponized fembot trio and PX are the ones trying to fight oppression against their kind. the trio hanging with kate are just trying to survive

also why are you faulting any of them for venting about the fact that theyre frustrated with the fact that a) societal change is slow and b) some of what they do isnt allowed to permanently affect their setting because tat says so??? what are you doing right now. look. reread your post right now. what are you doing? you are ... venting about your frustrations with something, arent you. is that a problem? not at all. stick to valid criticisms, dude


Thank you.

Nice to see the signal in the noise.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Magenta wrote:

2. they do have a plan, but unfortunately, true to real life, their plan isnt instantaneous because theres no effective way of instantly making society better???


The only Way to make a drastic change would be to have a Dictatur. And even there it would be just on the surface. But you wouldnt want that one Way or another.



Beside that, nice sumeup about the Sisterhood.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Magenta wrote:
2. they do have a plan, but unfortunately, true to real life, their plan isnt instantaneous because theres no effective way of instantly making society better???

like first of all, how quickly do you THINK societal change occurs? how do you THINK changes like these happen? how quickly do you think issues like these get taken care of?? it doesnt happen overnight

a) societal change is slow

I know that societal change is slow, but
1) this is a comic. It's a story. Time doesn't have to be linear and it just doesn't seem like Tat has justified the 6 years he's spent on it, and
2) They aren't just trying to change society, there's a PHYSICAL enemy. In the real world there's no head uber-patriarch sitting on a throne brainwashing everyone with a matrix-computer big brother that follows everyone around. They even attacked it once, but when that failed immediately moved on.



The 10 minutes that it took for the Devil to find that laptop is the most progress they've made, why'd they only try it once? They've got hackers, they've got mechanics and engineers that outclass Milton (with all his factories and workers and life experience (he must be pretty old, right?)). And I've yet to see this plan expanded on other that "get rid of patriarchy". One strip where Xanthe is talking to Clio, or her gran, or herself, or anyone would be nice. "First we recruit some more female helpers off the streets and from the BOMF district. Then we target regular porn users, and maybe spread some viruses that prevent people accessing them. We then target Porno-man, regular devil people and the Devil's grip over Uncle Sam, maybe establish a new leader. Finally, we storm the Devil's mansion and shut down the patriarchy system."

Sure, getting rid of this matrix-thing won't be the end, there'll always be a few dickheads out there with fixed mindsets. But it will stop the production of new ones and the perpetuation of ideas inside people's heads. In the real world, fine, what they're doing is great. But in a world of hoverboards, giant robots, spy drones and flying-tricycles with force fields and lasers, handing out coffee just seems underwhelming. Add to that that most hardcore-misogynists are portrayed as literal devil people, getting rid of the Devil seem like the obvious step forward, but it's never even speculated.

Anyway, it was more of a jab at Tat's writing style then anything else. Speaking of which...

Miss Magenta wrote:
i don't think tat is handling these characters the best, i don't care for how he's handling theses issues or the messages involved, and ultimately the sisterhood and the fembots tend to be a little flat due to tat's extensive roster making it hard to round out and flesh them all out as characters

... especially when tat uses them as mouthpieces for his believes, or to explore issues like these ... ect, ect. thats no ones fault but his own. but like of ALL the criticisms .... like of all the valid points to make, of all the complaints to have, thats really all you have?

you are ... venting about your frustrations with something, arent you. is that a problem? not at all. stick to valid criticisms, dude


...this wasn't some big, composed argument detailing my every critique of Tat's work. It was an offhand reply to something someone said whilst feeling a little bored and cynical.

[EDIT] I think I may be nearing my end with this comic. You guys have said how you don't want people just coming here to talk shit about it and that's pretty much all I've been doing as of late.
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