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July 4, 2018: Political 2

 
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AngelLilly



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: July 4, 2018: Political 2 Reply with quote

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The Bass Weasel



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the US goes, we are currently being assailed by a long list of pretty horrible women in government, and they are being supported by a number of equally horrible women in right wing media.

One might speculate men aren't the only problem here in the real world, and it appears oligarchy is a much more pressing problem for most of us, men and women, than patriarchy. In today's world, there is no difference between a bat shit crazy John Birch billionaire woman and a bat shit crazy John Birch billionaire man in their ability to fuck with us. Equality! Yay!

Money doesn't talk, it curses.

Like Radical everything else, Radical Feminism is dated, and out of touch with the people it's supposed to liberate. I remember 60s radicals constantly going on about "the people" when at the same time they were completely and hopelessly out of touch with those people, who really wanted to nothing to do with them.

The Beatles even satirized them in a song.

Currently, we're witnessing little children separated from their parents, and placed in what are fundamentally concentration camps. LGBT folks are in danger of having hard fought rights stripped away, while black honor students are shot in the back by police.

Going back to Radical Feminism from the 80s comes across as a remarkable display of privilege in that with what's going on today, one has the luxury of worrying about consensual porn for money (or in many cases just for fun) or whether some dimwit "bro" goes to a strip joint.

The man crying over being separated from his little girl, and that tiny girl alone in a cage who even had her toy taken away, screaming for her "papi" aren't concerned with patriarchy or Radical Feminist theory. They just want to be reunited somewhere they won't have to be constantly afraid of being murdered.

Women and men together are complicit in this atrocity.

This is not to ignore the challenges many women face, or horrible things like human trafficking, but so much of the heavy duty shit poised to fall down on our heads will do so equally on everyone, regardless of sexual identity.

We need to stick together bonded by our shared humanity, with empathy, love, and kindness, and stand up for what is moral and decent.
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HKVeteran



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bass Weasel wrote:
The Beatles even satirized them in a song.


Really? Which one?
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The Bass Weasel



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right
All right, all right, all right
All right, all right, all right
All right, all right"

"Revolution" by The Beatles

At one point many women who definitely were feminists would often say "I'm not really a feminist, but ..." because it was perceived as embarrassing to be associated with Dworkin, McKinnon and other radicals. This really was not especially helpful to progress on the rights of women, and gave the other side ammunition.
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0z79



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You say you want a re-vo-lu-tion..
Well, you know..
You should worry about yourself."

Beatles. Fun song to listen to at full blast. Speaking of which, my neighbors have recently driven me out of my favorite reading chair, they're scaring the hell out of my cats....

Kitty-cats don't seem to mind the Fab Four, though. They grew up listening to them. And War... and Ace of Bass.. a fair bit of heavy metal, black metal and speed metal... Oh yeah, and bluegrass.

...maybe some old-school gospel music, by the great Blind Willie Johnson.
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Sam



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

radical feminism is not something i would consider outmoded, but at the same time, i don't consider radical feminism to automatically contain the bigoted exclusionary regressive feminists
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