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AngelLilly



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject: July 8, 2018: Political 6 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: July 8, 2018: Political 6 Reply with quote

Fun fact: Bald eagles are actually giant dorks, with a silly little "pipping" call that's really funny, as they hop around and chatter at themselves/each other.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My name is (Deleted) Sam, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa. The proud magnificent metaphorical bald eagles were perverted into sinister illuminati devil surveillance drones. Metaphorically, of course. Nobody actually took eagles and transformed them into cyber-pyramids with eyes. Just... within the metaphorical context of this strip. Take that, mainstream US government that Sam represents...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the touch with the candles. Very symbolic.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: July 8, 2018: Political 6 Reply with quote

0z79 wrote:
Fun fact: Bald eagles are actually giant dorks, with a silly little "pipping" call that's really funny, as they hop around and chatter at themselves/each other.


I resent that!, my call is sooo manly it's deep
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Sam! Throw down the devil ways and return to the ways in that vision!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious where this will lead. As Sam is, in theory, the representation of US governing mainstream, I wonder how much character development he's really allowed, and how much this comic character mirrors the state of the real world. Smile

PS: Kinda like when The Sisterhood or their allies blow up a giant evil robot, and it inevitably gets replaced by a new one or two shortly afterwards like nobody's business.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is so beautiful. The colors are gorgeous, for sure, but the metaphor is incredible. A young America, full of ideals, wonder and promise, looking up to the magnificent eagle and its freedom, contrasted with the current one, with Liberty gone, and where the real freedom of old is replaced with an artificial, simulated one. The unlit candles and untouched cake, as Greyman mentioned, are also very good symbolism.

I really like Tat's choice to have some of his strips lack gutter spaces. He's become really good at it.


I might criticize Tatuya's views on sex work, but that will not tarnish the feeling I have when he does something legitimately beautiful. Being political in your message is not inherently wrong, Tat.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait... It does not look like a trap. How did that eagle get in a pet cage, suspended from a tree, in the middle of a witches' forest.


Uh oh. ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're not unlit, they're extinguished. Like the fire for freedom. They're the remains of what was once passionate, and are now a smokestack relic.

I do worry a little about the idea that the US was better in the past. We had so many damn atrocities in our time, there really wasn't a time when freedom was ever in everyone's hands. It was just a lot quieter of a problem until revolts and protests brought it to our attention.

If this country ever gets back on track, I want to see the redemption arc for Uncle Sam. We've got a long way to go. Even electing democrats isn't going to fix everything.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zilla wrote:
I do worry a little about the idea that the US was better in the past. We had so many damn atrocities in our time, there really wasn't a time when freedom was ever in everyone's hands. It was just a lot quieter of a problem until revolts and protests brought it to our attention.

I'm thinking about the past, actually, and I realized something: For America, the 21th Century is the revival of Manifest Destiny! And now I cannot believe that I didn't see that before.

What America was back then, though, was idealistic and full of promise. Few people actually believe in Manifest Destiny today, and it's seen as the piss-poor excuse to keep the war machine going and gain a lot of money in the process. Which, let's be fair, it absolutely is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i always thought that what made america great was not that we were perfect, but that we had aspirations. in much of my lifetime, we had the hope that we really were going to make people's lives better - minorities and women here at home, people suffering under dictatorships abroad (admittedly, a pretty mixed record there - it was pretty much only communist dictatorships we had a problem with, capitalist dictators who bought lots of stuff from us were OK). but we saw ourselves as people who could fix things. yes, we had created an oil industry that polluted the place, but we could also come up with regulations to combat that, and we had people inventing alternate energy sources and other things to try to combat the problem. we were realists, who believed in science; indeed, who held the banner of science high and reveled in what science could do.

oh, and we were welcoming. we were happy to have people come here who wanted to make a better life for themselves and their children.

we genuinely wanted to be the good guy.

and now, our leaders want only to be corporate hacks, fawning on dictators and aspiring to be dictators themselves. the NYTimes had an article sunday about the US pressuring the WHO to back off on a statement promoting breast feeding...because formula manufacturers were against it. seems they are worried because their profits are dropping. and we tried to do it by strong-arming Ecuador. Ecuador. what kind of a sleazy bully do you have to be to get off on picking on Ecuador? but that's now us, apparently.


i share tat's despair at what Sam has become.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leohan wrote:
I'm thinking about the past, actually, and I realized something: For America, the 21th Century is the revival of Manifest Destiny!


I'm afraid so. Behold PNAC.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
i share tat's despair at what Sam has become.


I relate. Sad Hugs all around.

We shall overcome.
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