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Caimsen



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leohan wrote:
Zilla wrote:
I do worry a little about the idea that the US was better in the past. We had so many damn atrocities in our time, there really wasn't a time when freedom was ever in everyone's hands. It was just a lot quieter of a problem until revolts and protests brought it to our attention.

I'm thinking about the past, actually, and I realized something: For America, the 21th Century is the revival of Manifest Destiny! And now I cannot believe that I didn't see that before.

What America was back then, though, was idealistic and full of promise. Few people actually believe in Manifest Destiny today, and it's seen as the piss-poor excuse to keep the war machine going and gain a lot of money in the process. Which, let's be fair, it absolutely is.


Thats how i see it too. About 15 Years ago, the Usa was still a Country what you could count on. That it would try to put things right. To reach for the Stars. A Country that would give you hope.
But now? It really doesnt look like such a promesing place anymore.
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ChastMastr



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caimsen wrote:
Thats how i see it too. About 15 Years ago, the Usa was still a Country what you could count on. That it would try to put things right. To reach for the Stars. A Country that would give you hope.
But now? It really doesnt look like such a promesing place anymore.


I'd go back further than 15 years; alas, this would be 2003, which was literally when this was happening:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
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Caimsen



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChastMastr wrote:
Caimsen wrote:
Thats how i see it too. About 15 Years ago, the Usa was still a Country what you could count on. That it would try to put things right. To reach for the Stars. A Country that would give you hope.
But now? It really doesnt look like such a promesing place anymore.


I'd go back further than 15 years; alas, this would be 2003, which was literally when this was happening:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse


Ok, in that Case lets make it 2000. That was a rather fine Year.
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Nobody Important



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caimsen wrote:
Thats how i see it too. About 15 Years ago, the Usa was still a Country what you could count on. That it would try to put things right. To reach for the Stars. A Country that would give you hope.
But now? It really doesnt look like such a promesing place anymore.


Don't you know? Tribalism and hate are more important than anything else. Doing horrible things to people we hate, that's what makes ruining our country worth it.
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