November 13, 2018: Guilt 8

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November 13, 2018: Guilt 8

Post by Abraxas » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:21 am

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Ladies and Gentlemen, please place your bets: Who's the priest Squiggy will see?

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Post by ar-558 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:02 pm

Well there only is the guy who has erotic dreams of Jesus, I forgot his name.

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Post by Oldone » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:41 pm

This series of strips is pretty excellent commentary, both on how law enforcement refuses to recognize viewing pornography for the dangerous crime that it is, and how people like Slig, once finally realizing what they've done, are far too busy feeling sorry for themselves to realize that they aren't the victim, and it's not about them.

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Post by Z6IIAB » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:32 pm

pretty sure we got our answer on the latest strip:
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Call me Celina. I've been a fan since 2007, and tried to enjoy the old forum since then too. Now that we have a forum for radfems/people who actually enjoy the comic! Hell yes! I'll call up all my buddies here!! Armageddon is coming.

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Re: November 13, 2018: Guilt 8

Post by Abraxas » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:25 am

That is what I love about the story telling structure in Sinfest: Every setup will have a pay off in the end. Sometimes it takes months... and sometimes just a week.

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Funny sidenote: The ones in control of porn never grow into Zombies themselves. They always stand with their spine straight as the personification of strength. I mean... can you picture Sado-Due as a brainless Zombie? Eventhough he clearly consumes that stuff himself.

Only the hypocritical mass, who plays to be a decent husband at day and a porn consumer at night, is a Zombie. Which raises the question: Are those who openly are part of the porn industry in better balance? Even Squiggy's himself was never a zombie himself. And he never tried to hide that he was a porn user himself.

Now, I doubt that this was the intention. And after all the story needs proper antagonists to work. So I guess I am interpreting too much into the minor fact that I never saw brainless slobber on the edge of the mouth of Sado-Dude or Pimp-Dude.

To end on a higher note: If Sado-Dude pulls out a hood of bees and goes all Wickerman? I'm outta here... :lol:

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Post by ZarquonsNiece » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:07 am

Oldone wrote:This series of strips is pretty excellent commentary, both on how law enforcement refuses to recognize viewing pornography for the dangerous crime that it is, and how people like Slig, once finally realizing what they've done, are far too busy feeling sorry for themselves to realize that they aren't the victim, and it's not about them.
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I's say that exploiting peoples basic self-centreness is the only way to reduce porn usage and mitigate it's effects. In the same way that your unlikely to convince someone to stop using cocaine by explaining the plight of the Colombian small farmer a man is probably not going to cut down his porn viewing when he's told that the woman he's watching was most likely pressured into appearing and was underpaid. After all he can see that she's enjoying herself.

People will only ever walk away from something toxic when they focus on how it's damaging their lives.

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Post by Oldone » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:12 am

ZarquonsNiece wrote:
Oldone wrote:This series of strips is pretty excellent commentary, both on how law enforcement refuses to recognize viewing pornography for the dangerous crime that it is, and how people like Slig, once finally realizing what they've done, are far too busy feeling sorry for themselves to realize that they aren't the victim, and it's not about them.
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I's say that exploiting peoples basic self-centreness is the only way to reduce porn usage and mitigate it's effects. In the same way that your unlikely to convince someone to stop using cocaine by explaining the plight of the Colombian small farmer a man is probably not going to cut down his porn viewing when he's told that the woman he's watching was most likely pressured into appearing and was underpaid. After all he can see that she's enjoying herself.

People will only ever walk away from something toxic when they focus on how it's damaging their lives.

While I agree with what you are saying, it's still an extremely negative trait of men. They realize how porn is damaging their lives, walk away from it, then spend the rest of the time either pitying themselves for ever being addicted or self congratulating themselves for getting away from it. Meanwhile, the actual victim, the female porn star, is still suffering, is still being held captive and raped on film, and they did absolutely nothing what-so-ever to help or benefit her in the slightest.

Squigley, in this case, is a representation of men who need to get over themselves and realize that it's not about them and how they feel while wallowing in self pity, it's about the women that they violated, who are being glossed over.

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Post by Silt River » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Oldone wrote:
ZarquonsNiece wrote:
Oldone wrote:This series of strips is pretty excellent commentary, both on how law enforcement refuses to recognize viewing pornography for the dangerous crime that it is, and how people like Slig, once finally realizing what they've done, are far too busy feeling sorry for themselves to realize that they aren't the victim, and it's not about them.
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I's say that exploiting peoples basic self-centreness is the only way to reduce porn usage and mitigate it's effects. In the same way that your unlikely to convince someone to stop using cocaine by explaining the plight of the Colombian small farmer a man is probably not going to cut down his porn viewing when he's told that the woman he's watching was most likely pressured into appearing and was underpaid. After all he can see that she's enjoying herself.

People will only ever walk away from something toxic when they focus on how it's damaging their lives.

While I agree with what you are saying, it's still an extremely negative trait of men. They realize how porn is damaging their lives, walk away from it, then spend the rest of the time either pitying themselves for ever being addicted or self congratulating themselves for getting away from it. Meanwhile, the actual victim, the female porn star, is still suffering, is still being held captive and raped on film, and they did absolutely nothing what-so-ever to help or benefit her in the slightest.

Squigley, in this case, is a representation of men who need to get over themselves and realize that it's not about them and how they feel while wallowing in self pity, it's about the women that they violated, who are being glossed over.
While I agree that reforming ones bad behavior should go beyond just 'oneself' and go towards the people you negatively effect, I find it a little unreasonable to say that Squig needs to just 'get over himself' right away. This is what, the first couple of days after doing something extremely personal, self reflective, and realizing the gravity of what horror he feels a participant in. That takes a lot to process, for anyone.

I think this part of the arc represents that part of the growing process. If he stays 'stuck like this', yeah I think you have a valid point about what he represents. But it does take time. It's heavy emotional stuff, for a person realizing just how horrible the patriarchy is and how deep they've supported it you know? There is a time and place for going through this kind of shame and guilt. When done correctly, it can lead to great strength, growth, and a passion for helping those you've wronged and acting on it.
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